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My ASUS X58 Sabertooth is still going strong with my 930 sitting pretty at 4.2 thumb.gif
But a sad day indeed. frown.gif
Got my RIVE in my room, ready for the next build biggrin.gif
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Yeah, I have the same base config as you, GA-X58A-OC and an i7 970 and I honestly cannot see what in the hell I would be gaining by moving to SB-E, or even the Ivy Bridge shrink of the same.
Current LGA1366/X58 setup:
  • 2x SATA-3 support - check
  • 2x USB 3.0 support - check
  • 6-core 32nm chips - check
  • best motherboard for sub-zero - check
Possible LGA2011/X79 setup:
  • 4x SATA-3 native support - check
  • 2x USB 3.0 support - check
  • 6-core 32nm chips - check
  • Unofficial PCI-E 3.0 support - check
So what would I gain by going SB-E? Extra 10% in CPU performance and unofficial PCI-E 3.0... tongue.gif As is I can clock 4.6GHz+ for 24/7 without much issues, daily I run 4GHz only because I simply do not need more. In fact, I actually do not need more than 3.6GHz but I just like nice round numbers so I run 4GHz.
It's sad how weak the new offerings are, both from Intel and from AMD. I actually ordered another GA-X58A-OC since I just got Phase fixed up so that I can do some sub-zero again without the need to constantly insulate and remove insulation when going between sub-zero and water.

SB-E is a bit more than 10% in CPU performance when you use apps that are multi threaded. It's not the platform you upgrade to unless you need it's benefits.
 
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Makes me cherish my 920 and my mobo.
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Soon the day will come where intel will run out of socket sizes and have to reuse them, they will have used every pin count from 775 to 2011.
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SB-E is a bit more than 10% in CPU performance when you use apps that are multi threaded. It's not the platform you upgrade to unless you need it's benefits.

No, actually compared to 6C/12T Gulftown/Westmere, it is not...the gain is 10%-15% and no more (just one reference for good measure http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3960x-x79-sandy-bridge-e,3071-20.html). This is a clock-for-clock comparison, not discussing how much you can OC each platform. I agree that the peak overclock on the SB-E will be higher than peak OC on Gulftown/Westmere but that is irrelevant for daily tasks, whether you use multi-core intensive apps or not. There are no benefits to it, unless you just want to bench the newest stuff and update your signature. Also, I guess if you have money burning a hole in your pocket then it's a good choice too.

Don't get me wrong, I actually was ready to pull the trigger on SB-E and X79, but once I saw how castrated the chipset ended up being I said forget it.
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No, actually compared to 6C/12T Gulftown/Westmere, it is not...the gain is 10%-15% and no more. This is a clock-for-clock comparison, not discussing how much you can OC each platform. I agree that the peak overclock on the SB-E will be higher than peak OC on Gulftown/Westmere but that is irrelevant for daily tasks, whether you use multi-core intensive apps or not. There are no benefits to it, unless you just want to bench the newest stuff and update your signature. Also, I guess if you have money burning a hole in your pocket then it's a good choice too.
Don't get me wrong, I actually was ready to pull the trigger on SB-E and X79, but once I saw how castrated the chipset ended up being I said forget it.

It's still an improvement no matter how you slice it, the castrated chipset (as you call it) will change in 2012 as newer board revisions and newer steppings of the 3960x/30k appear. If you have Gulftown/Westmere i certainly wouldn't upgrade to SB-E no, that is a no brainer. It is still early days for X79 though, you need to bere that in mind. 1366 has had the pleasure of 3years of shelf life and reputation behind it....lets hope X79 has such longevity, although in theory it should as IB-E is due to use the same socket in Q4 2012.
 
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... My 920 and my Rev1 X58A-UD7 still going pretty strong @ 4.5Ghz ( winter config! lol ) ... It's a sad day, but i don't know why, i love having "deprecated" systems overclocked tongue.gif

I was thinking about an upgrade to my system, mainly due to power consumption and heat ... but not worth it for now, nor next year as far as i can tell ... let's w8 for 2013 wink.gif

The king is dead ... long live the king! biggrin.gif X58 will be part of Intel history as i see it ... an incredible platform.
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It's still an improvement no matter how you slice it, the castrated chipset (as you call it) will change in 2012 as newer board revisions and newer steppings of the 3960x/30k appear. If you have Gulftown/Westmere i certainly wouldn't upgrade to SB-E no, that is a no brainer. It is still early days for X79 though, you need to bere that in mind. 1366 has had the pleasure of 3years of shelf life and reputation behind it....lets hope X79 has such longevity, although in theory it should as IB-E is due to use the same socket in Q4 2012.

Therein lies the problem. As-is the current X79 incarnation is likely to have a very short life span. Investing $500 in a mobo that will be superseded in a few months by what X79 should-have-been just kills it for me. The flip side is that I need a benching platform now because I got bit by the benching bug again, and I do not feel like investing in something which will have limited resale value due to EOL (read LGA1366/X58), but I also do feel like investing into LGA2011/X79 is a waste (too much $$$ for barely any fun to be gained compared to LGA1366/X58). It's a lose-lose situation from where I stand. Maybe I should just spend a few days retrofitting my main system so that I can easily swap between sub-zero and water and call it a day frown.gif

Oh Intel, why must you do this...
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Therein lies the problem. As-is the current X79 incarnation is likely to have a very short life span. Investing $500 in a mobo that will be superseded in a few months by what X79 should-have-been just kills it for me. The flip side is that I need a benching platform now because I got bit by the benching bug again, and I do not feel like investing in something which will have limited resale value due to EOL (read LGA1366/X58), but I also do feel like investing into LGA2011/X79 is a waste (too much $$$ for barely any fun to be gained compared to LGA1366/X58). It's a lose-lose situation from where I stand. Maybe I should just spend a few days retrofitting my main system so that I can easily swap between sub-zero and water and call it a day frown.gif
Oh Intel, why must you do this...

SubZero on X79 is total win, if your a serious bencher in that department then 2011 is what you want, with 4-Way SLI and 32GB of Quad Channel memory it's a benchers dream.
 
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If there was no Sandy Bridge ... and the only new processors coming out were the X79, as a X58 replacement, i imagine that everyone would be "meh" about the evolution ... eheheh. Let's face it, it's not a ground breaking platform ( yet ) and it didn't have the same buzz that the X58 had when it came out.

At least, it's my opinion smile.gif

But the X79 has this curtain called Ivy Bridge, so there wasn't a big hype about the X79 launch because the eyes are focused in the Ivy Bridge "tock" tongue.gif

As i said in the past, Intel did a great plan to create the top of the top line with the 2011 platform and having the 1155 platform for mainstream, where the majority of the enthusiasts are.

If the IB was a bogus, then i think people would be really pissed ... almost as pissed as when AMD launched BD and it was a flop tongue.gif
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