Originally Posted by Domino
Yes you do. Just because you are in a squad environment for infantry, you are able to position your infantry individually. Likewise, if you aren't skilled enough to know how to place individual units while in a squad environment, it shows your lack of skill in the game. Heck, they teach you how to do it in the training missions. Just to through in more complexity of the game, you account for physics, sight ratios/camo sights, road path finding, turret rotation speeds, retreat bonuses, and even the psychology of your troops (i.e. pinning/suppression and their related bonuses). Players on CoH also radically shape the map. You can't shape the map on SC2, neither SC1.
Fanboys would be fanboys. The arguments they have stated for complexity revolves in nearly all RTS games, CoH just builds on it and breaks the rules. Oh well...clouded judges before they reach high level play (which I'm an old SC1 vet and SC2 player) and have counted well over thousands of thousands of hours to RTS games of all styles. Lol, if you want to use that as an argument, then I'd just use it too. Been playing competitive RTS for 4 years, and gaming RTS since I was 8 years old.
Simply put, CoH is more micro driven... starcraft mixes the two concepts very well... CnC is more macro driven (on the higher archy of macro-micro ratios). Micro requires more thought on the micro scale, macro is more APM/macroly driven, resource prediction, rock-paper-scissors concepts, etc. Just like the sciences, macro is a lot more simple then micro but both requires dramatically different concepts that only intertwine the other characteristics of the other.
Allies versus axis really shows your lack of understanding of the game and complexity of the factions and how much they differ. How can you comment on a game on which of competitive elements when you haven't actually played the game to the pro tournament levels?
I'm a huge CnC fan at heart, but I'll easily comment on its lack of complexity any time. It just shows you how much I actually understand the game and not allow fanboy comments to cloud my judgement.