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Atleast the temperatures are not the problem, everything seems normal. Did u also try to push the gpu bus speed with just a few mhz?
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9 pages with no fix. Just reinstall. NBD.

Will re-install tommorow smile.gif

and ill keep you guys up-dated.
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god, so many uninformed people in here...
The so called "micro-stuttering" is a phenomenon that appears with ANY MULTI-GPU setup.
Basically the frametimes are not constant, they are irregular which means GPU 1 will render the first frame faster while GPU 2 will render the second frame slower, ultimately causing a small 'delay' between frames.
Heres an example in Stalker with a single HD 5850 compared to two 5850's in CF
ms.jpg
As you can see, the single HD 5850 refreshes each frame within 36 milliseconds which is a constant frametime allowing for smooth gameplay.
However, once you put a second card in the micro-stuttering will appear.
One frame is always being refreshed after ~13 ms while the second one however takes around 50 ms simply due to the GPU's having to communicate with each other. So opposed to a constant frametime you will see an almost ~40 ms delay each second frame and THAT is basically the micro-stuttering.. has nothing to do with driver issues or anything...........
And yes, Vsync does improve it because it uses frame buffers which means frames are already pre-rendered and can be output in a constant way. (note it doesnt necessarily fix it, but definately dampens the stuttering thanks to more constant output of frames)
Micro-stuttering is TOTALLY subjective; some people may notice it, others may not.
It may also be worth noting that nVidia has this issue WAY better under control than AMD. The frametimes on a SLI setup are much more constant than a CF setup, see here: http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2011/test-radeon-hd-6900-cf-vs.-geforce-gtx-500-sli/20/
Also, it might be worth checking out the attached links below so we can save 9 pages of non-sense next time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_stuttering
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stutter-crossfire,2995.html

Yeah, but whats up with the poeple that aint got the problem?
thanks btw for youre post was a good read thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by toX0rz View Post

god, so many uninformed people in here...
The so called "micro-stuttering" is a phenomenon that appears with ANY MULTI-GPU setup.
Basically the frametimes are not constant, they are irregular which means GPU 1 will render the first frame faster while GPU 2 will render the second frame slower, ultimately causing a small 'delay' between frames.
Heres an example in Stalker with a single HD 5850 compared to two 5850's in CF
ms.jpg
As you can see, the single HD 5850 refreshes each frame within 36 milliseconds which is a constant frametime allowing for smooth gameplay.
However, once you put a second card in the micro-stuttering will appear.
One frame is always being refreshed after ~13 ms while the second one however takes around 50 ms simply due to the GPU's having to communicate with each other. So opposed to a constant frametime you will see an almost ~40 ms delay each second frame and THAT is basically the micro-stuttering.. has nothing to do with driver issues, gpu utilization or other funny stuff that has been mentioned here.
And yes, Vsync does improve it because it uses frame buffers which means frames are already pre-rendered and can be output in a constant way. (note it doesnt necessarily fix it, but definately dampens the stuttering thanks to more constant output of frames)
Micro-stuttering is TOTALLY subjective; some people may notice it, others may not.
It may also be worth noting that nVidia has this issue WAY better under control than AMD. The frametimes on a SLI setup are much more constant than a CF setup, see here: http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/grafikkarten/2011/test-radeon-hd-6900-cf-vs.-geforce-gtx-500-sli/20/
Also, it might be worth checking out the attached links below so we can save 9 pages of non-sense next time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_stuttering
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stutter-crossfire,2995.html
So next time do some research about the product and its related issues that you're buying OP....
Either sell your card and go single-GPU or use Vsync, no driver or OS reinstall will fix this issue.


Bla Bla Bla, I know that when u where still in ur mothers belly. i got 2x gtx 480 and where is my micro stutter? Well according to ur knowledge only single GPUs dont have it, Good Job..

Anyway if u got micro-stutter for one game and not for another that its mostly driver related and since i got my share of experience with ati cards I wouldnt wait for any miracle to come soon to help.
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on my current gtx 570 sli ive got aa on and no stuttering:P im running the 290 beta drivers though
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on my current gtx 570 sli ive got aa on and no stuttering:P im running the 290 beta drivers though
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Should i reinstall windows 7 ?
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No man dont reinstall windows 7.

Just get a cheap hard disk with say 20 gb capacity, unplug ur windows 7 HD and plug this 20 gb harddisk. Than install windows 7 on that, try a game out and see if it helps. But really I dont think ur micro stutter comes from windows 7 tho..
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No man dont reinstall windows 7.
Just get a cheap hard disk with say 20 gb capacity, unplug ur windows 7 HD and plug this 20 gb harddisk. Than install windows 7 on that, try a game out and see if it helps. But really I dont think ur micro stutter comes from windows 7 tho..

dam...
game is a month out and still nothing...

oh well i gotta learn to live with V-Sync biggrin.gif i guess...
also when zoom in in battlefield 3 on some texters the fps drop is to 40 ? 0.o
this is a common issue cuz ive readed some threads on Battlelog tongue.gif

EDIT : CatalystCreator Andrew D
The latest CAP is available here: http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/crossfirex-app-profiles.aspx We're still looking at other BF3 CF issues
Edited by Toxsick - 12/12/11 at 8:28am
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You gaming at 1680x1050? Have you run some other benchmarks to check if your getting standard results, like 3dmark11/Vantage? Since you said it never drops below 55fps- have you considered playing with VSYNC ON, bouncing between 55-60 fps would be much smoother than bouncing between 55-100+ fps.

ive done the benchmark here are the results.. any good?
http://3dmark.com/3dmv/3725761?resultType=3dmv&resultId=3725761
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Yeah, but whats up with the poeple that aint got the problem?
thanks btw for youre post was a good read thumb.gif

It might not be that other people don't have the problem, it might just be that YOU are more sensitive to microstuttering than other people.
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It might not be that other people don't have the problem, it might just be that YOU are more sensitive to microstuttering than other people.

could also be..
even if i see 30 FPS it feels like LAG, ( IN MY EYES )
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