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I can totally understand people hating on apple for some of their products and such, but not for this. When your a massive company, the 'ethical' thing to do doesn't always apply in the business world to stay on top. When there is a hole in the system that allows you to gain an advantage over your competitor, you need to take it to keep a multi-billion dollar company on top.
my $0.02.

by using patents to stiffle competition the only real losers are the consumers. so yeah, people have a right fo hate. less competition means less innovation and that means less new products for consumers. Theres a reason monopolies arent legal.
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crapple won't give it a rest will they
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Working in a Sprint store I don't see how there's ANYTHING open about Apple products. I do everything I can to steer customers away from the iPhone. Once presented with the facts, most people find it's a no-brainer to pick up a SGSII instead. There's always the few blind sheep that come in and are in complete iPhone tunnel vision though.
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Working in a Sprint store I don't see how there's ANYTHING open about Apple products. I do everything I can to steer customers away from the iPhone. Once presented with the facts, most people find it's a no-brainer to pick up a SGSII instead. There's always the few blind sheep that come in and are in complete iPhone tunnel vision though.

What does the average joe care if a phone is "open" or not?
    
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I feel these threads should be banned like politics. On a PC dominant forum it just reeks of trollbait. Constructive discussions and Apple don't mix on this forum.

Why don't PC users complain about why Windows OS is not 'open'? thinking.gif
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apple-functionality.jpg

Ironic thing is, the exact same can be said about PC gamers.

Make peripherals look 'cool' and clueless gamers will buy anything, at whatever price, you throw at them for stuff that is worth 1/10th cost (i.e. surround sound headsets, mice, mouse pads, etc.)
 
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I know people keep saying the system is broken, and sure it is. But is it still right to exploit it.
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I know people keep saying the system is broken, and sure it is. But is it still right to exploit it.

It is still legal to exploit it. It's also legal to file appeal after appeal in court, that doesn't mean it's productive or ethical (all that is a matter of opinion). Is Apple's patent-trolling productive? No. Will it take longer for HTML5 to be adopted because of this? Yes. So in a way, they're only hurting themselves. Flash works fine on everything besides iOS products.
 
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I feel these threads should be banned like politics. On a PC dominant forum it just reeks of trollbait. Constructive discussions and Apple don't mix on this forum.
Why don't PC users complain about why Windows OS is not 'open'? thinking.gif
Ironic thing is, the exact same can be said about PC gamers.
Make peripherals look 'cool' and clueless gamers will buy anything, at whatever price, you throw at them for stuff that is worth 1/10th cost (i.e. surround sound headsets, mice, mouse pads, etc.)

Yeah, but don't quote me here on this one. Lord knows, I'm not an Apple, or even a PC expert, but for the close to $4500 dollars, or more, for a base system for an Apple tower, or, even a video editing server, and if I'm wrong, the price isn't off by more than a thousand for a current year system, you'd get everything you wanted, and more, plus overkill, for the same exact pricing on PC, plus probably have enough hipster money left to buy a few Starbucks gift cards for when you buy a laptop that will smoke an Macbook Air's ass any day of the week, and you're sitting with all those uncomfortable slags as they pound their coffees and do virtual yoga instead of the real thing, and video conference other people in the world sitting in Starbucks, doing the same thing: Living and dying by the Apple key. Not a professional opinion, but consumerists and fanboys alike, need to release their talons off of issues that inevitably became an issue of open source, and we as consumers need to tell the phone production companies in short form, what we want in the end-run, and tier it for expanded user understanding of the phone languages.

Soon enough on this planet, it will become illegal to snap your fingers, as it messes with everyone else's 'flicks' and tonal commands on their phones, and only because patent trolls fought for the legality of it all, and we as consumers had rights to say something, but never did.

yfw
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I agree. People at work make fun of me because I refuse to buy an iPhone, iPad, iPod or other Apple devices. Their argument is that Apple is THE standard for such devices.

Standard or not, Apple is pure evil.

And have to totally agree with Patent law being broken.

standard?
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This is just a portion of all the ideas Apple put forward, iterating design steps that a company should take to avoid copying Apple's look:

● The front of device shouldn't be black
● If the basic design is a rectangle: no curved corners
● An off-center screen
● No horizontal speaker slots
● A front design that's cluttered/features excess adornments
● A device that's not thin

http://pocketnow.com/smartphone-news/how-does-apple-think-everyone-else-should-be-building-smartphones

i wish they would work on making their devices as good as they could be, not damaging/destroying others' work. i'll not buy another apple product again. i disagree too much with their policies
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Working in a Sprint store I don't see how there's ANYTHING open about Apple products. I do everything I can to steer customers away from the iPhone. Once presented with the facts, most people find it's a no-brainer to pick up a SGSII instead. There's always the few blind sheep that come in and are in complete iPhone tunnel vision though.

What does the average joe care if a phone is "open" or not?

Actually quite a bit, my mother, girlfriend and aunt love being able to have a customised home screen (Ie. ADW Launcher, not just being able to customise it) on their phones. (HTC Desire, SGSII and SGSI respectively)
    
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