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post #71 of 135
Not surprising since Motorola invented the cell phone and I'm pretty sure they own more patents in wireless technology than any other company on the planet. Die Apple Die.
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post #72 of 135
This is one of the problems of using patents to force competitors off the market and refuse royalty payments. You get into messy legal battles where every company's product is just banned from the market. Then every company loses revenue.

Greedy companies ran by irresponsible and arrogant executives have no shame.
post #73 of 135
Good for Moto giving Apple a taste of their own medicine

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post #74 of 135
Google acquired motorola
Motorola sues apple
Google sues apple?
This is where the cool bit starts. Step aside samsung, big daddy is here to save you biggrin.gif
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post #75 of 135
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Originally Posted by -Apocalypse- View Post

Uh, really? You been living under a rock? Apple started this... That's why it's a win, they tried to do to google what google just actually did in retaliation. This ruling is actually what will take it out of courtrooms and back into the market...

Two wrongs don't make a right.
post #76 of 135
To clear up some misconceptions in this thread:

1. This will not stop innovation. The likelihood of this ban going through is small, because it will be used as leverage, very good leverage. The ban will not completely stop the use of these devices in Europe, there is no way to regulate that, Samsung devices were still available in the "banned" markets for those who really wanted one. This does not stop Apple from releasing new phones that aren't banned, so competition could only theoretically abide for a matter of months,

2. This is mostly a good thing. All this will do is put a large damper on the meaningless patent wars between companies in this industry.

3. Apple's past actions were not, in anyway, conducive to innovation. Apple literally went as far as to try and patent the rectangle with a large screen on the front, design of a smartphone. They didn't try to stop competitors from copying anything unique from them, they tried to stop the sale of competitor products in general.
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post #77 of 135
This is in Germany, not Europe right? And it isn't against all iOS devices, since the iPod touch and I think WiFi iPad, don't have GPS. It's only the 3G iPad, and the iPhone.
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post #78 of 135
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Originally Posted by steelbom View Post

This is in Germany, not Europe right? And it isn't against all iOS devices, since the iPod touch and I think WiFi iPad, don't have GPS. It's only the 3G iPad, and the iPhone.

All of Europe and includes every version of the iphone/ipad minus the 4S. This does not mean Apple can't sell them. It just mean they face severe fines for every device they do sell. Plus the could pay the Bond and be back to Business as usual until the Appeal is denied.
post #79 of 135
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Originally Posted by r34p3rex View Post

Yea, when you decide to use someone else's patents and actively refuse to pay royalties, you're not going to win. Get real

Learn what FRAND (fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory) means before making yourself look silly again.

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Originally Posted by Darkpriest667 View Post

Um Motorola is owned by Google. they CAN foot the bill buddy.

Google is not going to front $1.5Billion to cover potential damages to Apple in order to continue with this lawsuit son. The current status is just a preliminary injunction that won't even take effect till next year.

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Originally Posted by BeerPowered View Post


All of Europe and includes every version of the iphone/ipad minus the 4S. This does not mean Apple can't sell them. It just mean they face severe fines for every device they do sell. Plus the could pay the Bond and be back to Business as usual until the Appeal is denied.

Wrong, this preliminary injunction is ONLY in Germany right now. It "could" lead to preventing sales of 3G iOS devices in further countries. Even still, it will not affect Apple's sales before the holidays in Germany.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 12/10/11 at 2:36am
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Learn what FRAND (fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory) means before making yourself look silly again.

Wow, you're unbelievable. Do you not understand that FRAND still mandates that royalties must be paid? Apple is actively refusing to participate in any form of negotiation for the use of Motorola's patents.
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