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Oh yeah right, my bios version is 8013. And when I reinstalled I started from bottom. So every version went in. But if i drop the mult by one, and raise the fsb by one, that should work right? but it doesnt. I cant get either the multi or the fsb any higher even if i put the fsb att 200mhz I cant get the mult to 17.5.

Edit, My psu is a FractalDesign Newton R2 650w 80plus

Update, had to put the Nb down to about 2800 to maintain stability in prime. however it didnt make a diffrence in performance anyway.
Edited by Hampa - 12/15/11 at 4:35am
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Hi!
tonight I had a little succes, reupdated bios reseated the cpu, then I raist the mult by one, and guess what? It booted. This is my results so far: Cpu: 3660mhz (215x17) Vcore: 1.37V, Nb: 3010mhz, Cpu-nb: 1.25V Ht: 1941mhz ram at 1440 or something like that, But I cant get my cpu any higher it seems, tried vcore up to 1.42 and just raising the fsb or multi by one I get overclock failed. but its a lot better than before anyway. So you were right! It was a real bad oc before:thumb:. (well it's better now but I aint done) O yeah right found something odd! If I put turbo core to Disabled as I have had it from the begining and put it to auto I can raise the fsb by one and still start.
And when I tried out the maximum cpu speed now I had the nb at the same as the ht.. around 2000mhz. and the ram was at it's lowest but couldnt get the cpu higher.
But I would like to have around 3.8-4.0ghz on the cpu.
I will post some pics from my bios as well, so you can tell me what I'am doing wrong! Tnx so far! Without you I would probobly never come this far, because I was about to give up!

Great! Glad you figured it out...

Pics of the BIOS will help for sure!

Remember to only overclock one thing at a time, and to record all of your results - if you do this, and provide me with all of your numbers and voltages, we would be able to assemble a feasible max overclock for your setup.

I think you will be looking at something like the numbers below, which are my two best overclocks... of course your numbers will vary slightly as every setup will require slightly different clocks or voltages to be fully stable on Prime95 blend tests for 12 hours.

Good OC:
CPU = 4000MHz @ 1.34375 vCore
MULTI = 16.0x
NB = 3000MHz CPU/NB @ 1.28125 V
RAM = 1666MHz @ 1.55 V
FSB = 250 @ NB = 1.15 V
HT = 2000MHz

Aggressive OC:
CPU 4142 MHz @ 1.425 vCore
MULTI x 16.0
NB 3106 MHz @ 1.36875 V CPU/NB
RAM 1726 MHz @ 1.55V
FSB 259 @ NB = 1.15 V
HT 2071 MHz
Edited by FromUndaChz - 12/15/11 at 2:00pm
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First off, turn TURBO Core to OFF in the BIOS - You don't want that ON/AUTO when overclocking.

You should really follow my instructions for overclocking from the ground up...

I'm not sure if you're having a lack of understanding of my instructions, if it's laziness, or what it is but I can tell that you're basically not wanting to take the time and the patience to really tweak your system properly. Honestly it's easier and less stressful to OC if you just go about it the "Hard Way" because that's actually EASIER.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1174094/1055t-or-965be-or-960t-for-streaming-gaming-will-be-overclocking/30#post_15935185

Read the post on that page that I already wrote on overclocking a Phenom II. It is pretty detailed and should get you much better results than this guessing and hoping for stability game that you're playing.

Get out a notebook, take a few hours, and try that method. You will likely achieve:

CPU = 4000MHz @ 1.34375 vCore
MULTI = 16.0x
NB = 3000MHz CPU/NB @ 1.28125 V
RAM = 1666MHz @ 1.55 V
FSB = 250 @ NB = 1.15 V
HT = 2000MHz

with hardly any trouble at all...

As you can see, there is no need to run a mutli of 17.0x for even a 4150MHz clock, let along 4000MHz. If a multi of 17 isn't working for you, however, its likely just because your CPU needs some more voltage to be stable at that speed and not for any other reason - more than likely.
post #24 of 33
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Originally Posted by FromUndaChz View Post

First off, turn TURBO Core to OFF in the BIOS - You don't want that ON/AUTO when overclocking.

You should really follow my instructions for overclocking from the ground up...

I'm not sure if you're having a lack of understanding of my instructions, if it's laziness, or what it is but I can tell that you're basically not wanting to take the time and the patience to really tweak your system properly. Honestly it's easier and less stressful to OC if you just go about it the "Hard Way" because that's actually EASIER.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1174094/1055t-or-965be-or-960t-for-streaming-gaming-will-be-overclocking/30#post_15935185

Read the post on that page that I already wrote on overclocking a Phenom II. It is pretty detailed and should get you much better results than this guessing and hoping for stability game that you're playing.

Get out a notebook, take a few hours, and try that method. You will likely achieve:

CPU = 4000MHz @ 1.34375 vCore
MULTI = 16.0x
NB = 3000MHz CPU/NB @ 1.28125 V
RAM = 1666MHz @ 1.55 V
FSB = 250 @ NB = 1.15 V
HT = 2000MHz

with hardly any trouble at all...

As you can see, there is no need to run a mutli of 17.0x for even a 4150MHz clock, let along 4000MHz. If a multi of 17 isn't working for you, however, its likely just because your CPU needs some more voltage to be stable at that speed and not for any other reason - more than likely.

Hi, I think something is a strange. When I put turbo core to disabled, it cant oc at all anymore. And thats when I leave everything at stock or below to try and get the cpu as high as it would go. But serusly it got to be something wrong either with bios or the cpu. I'm sry if you feel i dont listen to you because I'am trying everything you say, but its not working very well. Dont know what to do. Installed amd overdrive but that couldnt even read the cpu like it should. It told me it already was at 4ghz. I will really try to get the highest possible oc out of my system starting with only the cpu. But i got to have the turbo core on auto or it wont boot. Strange...
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That's kind of odd that it won't boot with TURBO set to OFF.

When you set it to off, and overclock just using the multiplier while everything else is left stock, what voltage are you running the CPU vCore at?

Also, honestly I would NEVER use AMD Overdrive but that's a matter of preference - it can be more of a hassle than it's worth! I would start by uninstalling overdrive to be sure that it's not trying to conflict of override your BIOS settings!

Normally I wouldn't recommend this but here is another idea if getting rid of overdrive doesn't work...

Your motherboard, since its from ASUS, has a software CD with it containing software for overclocking. I think It's called "TURBO V" but I could be wrong about the name. I used it just to see what it could do and it actually came back with decent clocks, although I used my own anyway because the software is somewhat conservative in it's OCing. You can install the software, open it in Windows, and tell it to overclock the machine automatically. It will reboot, and upon logging back into Windows should begin to tweak settings on its own. Here you can watch the voltages and clock speeds it's trying and testing, and record them as a starting place to see if maybe you're doing something wrong and missing something.

Let me know how that works. Remember before running it to set everything to stock, turn off cool n quiet, and try it with TURBO off. If it still won't boot with TURBO off, try it with it on. But, if the computer won't boot with TURBO Core on, I think you're looking at a BIOS bug and you might want to call ASUS tech support and ask them. I have a feeling you're just missing something though, not sure. Try the software that came on the MOBO and see where that gets you.

Also, is your RAM 1600MHz or is it 1333MHz? From what I see I'm assuming 1600, if that's the case you're ok. If it's 1333, you're overclocking the RAM to over 1400MHz and you should put it lower when testing only the CPU.
Edited by FromUndaChz - 12/16/11 at 9:48am
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Are you setting overclock AI tuner to DOCP as pictured above?

Try manual and start over again if this is the case.

Also, my latest BIOS is 0903, though we may have different boards. Are you sure you're on the absolute latest BIOS?
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That's kind of odd that it won't boot with TURBO set to OFF.
When you set it to off, and overclock just using the multiplier while everything else is left stock, what voltage are you running the CPU vCore at?
Also, honestly I would NEVER use AMD Overdrive but that's a matter of preference - it can be more of a hassle than it's worth! I would start by uninstalling overdrive to be sure that it's not trying to conflict of override your BIOS settings!
Normally I wouldn't recommend this but here is another idea if getting rid of overdrive doesn't work...
Your motherboard, since its from ASUS, has a software CD with it containing software for overclocking. I think It's called "TURBO V" but I could be wrong about the name. I used it just to see what it could do and it actually came back with decent clocks, although I used my own anyway because the software is somewhat conservative in it's OCing. You can install the software, open it in Windows, and tell it to overclock the machine automatically. It will reboot, and upon logging back into Windows should begin to tweak settings on its own. Here you can watch the voltages and clock speeds it's trying and testing, and record them as a starting place to see if maybe you're doing something wrong and missing something.
Let me know how that works. Remember before running it to set everything to stock, turn off cool n quiet, and try it with TURBO off. If it still won't boot with TURBO off, try it with it on. But, if the computer won't boot with TURBO Core on, I think you're looking at a BIOS bug and you might want to call ASUS tech support and ask them. I have a feeling you're just missing something though, not sure. Try the software that came on the MOBO and see where that gets you.
Also, is your RAM 1600MHz or is it 1333MHz? From what I see I'm assuming 1600, if that's the case you're ok. If it's 1333, you're overclocking the RAM to over 1400MHz and you should put it lower when testing only the CPU.

Hi! I tested voltages from 1.3V to 1.45 but it was the same result. And just to be clear, the turbo core is of at auto settings as it seems, and I dont even know if it works at stock settings. never seen it while playing or what not. And I never used amd overdrive cause it gave me the wrong values. it was just in my desperation I downloaded it when I couldnt get it to work. And my memory is rated as 1600 so it should be fine. But you never know if I got a bad stick or two! wink.gif
I will try Turbo V as I already got it installed, and your Ai suit, does it freeze when you run Intel burn test or prime or anything like that? Getting kind of worried it may be a hardware malfunction, cause today when I tried some settings, around 3.2-3.4ghz on the cpu with voltages up to 1.4 But then my lan port didnt work then tried to back down the multi to see if I could get the fsb higher, but then some usb ports on the board died. but they worked when I put my current speed at 3.66ghz with 1.34vcore and 2800 nb. I'm gonna buy another black editon cpu or maybe a fx-81xx and try that, If that dont work I will get a new motherboard on the warranty and if that wont do it, I just shoot my self! wink.gif
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Are you setting overclock AI tuner to DOCP as pictured above?
Try manual and start over again if this is the case.
Also, my latest BIOS is 0903, though we may have different boards. Are you sure you're on the absolute latest BIOS?

Yes I thougt about that to and tried to switch to manual, and guess what auto tuner in bios got my processor to? 3.22ghz! thats less what the turbo would be if I could get that to work. Isnt it supposed to start when playing battlefield 3 or skyrim for example? And I have tried both auto and on in bios. This without any other overclock. And yes I'am absolutly 100% sure its the latest bios, got the download page as favorite so I can check it regulary. Tnx this far! I will try some things tomorrow and post if I get a breakthrou or bios update or something! I will put my old athlon 2 640 to rule out the board having hardware issues! Tnx again for you time, probobly would have given up by now without you! thumb.gif
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Wish I could help you out some more but I'm kind of out of ideas frown.gif

Maybe somebody else can help if you try making your own thread - that will get the attention of people who can help with your specific issue.

Also in your profile, fill out your rig specs to help them help you.

Def try making your own thread somebody else may be able to help you.
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Wish I could help you out some more but I'm kind of out of ideas frown.gif
Maybe somebody else can help if you try making your own thread - that will get the attention of people who can help with your specific issue.
Also in your profile, fill out your rig specs to help them help you.
Def try making your own thread somebody else may be able to help you.

It's cool you helped enough! will try the other processor again tomorrow and I know it can do 3.6 and that was on a asus m4a88t-m this board should be able to rip that result to pieces! But you never know! wink.gif
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Hi again! Just finished testing with the other processor, and guess what? It works without issues. Only problem was bsod 124 then raised the vcore a little and then i stabilized. Maybe my 960T just is a real bad chip and it will be replaced soon! Tnx for all the help, to bad it's probobly a hardware failure.

/Hampa
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