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Hey all, I've decided to stop lurking and jump on the bandwagon.

I tried AI booster for a few days, read up enough, and finally decided to go for the gusto. AI booster changed the speed in the bios, so I had to uninstall it and reset the bios (jumper)-- Ive heard stories of people OC'ing using AIbooster *and* the bios causing damage, so i avoided it at all costs.

Well, i've been conservatively increasing the speed, first was 2.35ghz (235 x 10), then i got ballsy bumped it up to 2.5, I increased the voltage to 1.425 put it under load and everything was dandy. I know my idle temps at 2.5 were 98*.


So i keep reading, and see more manly men than I clocked at 2.6, so i just changed it. I kept my ram timings @ 2.5-3-3-6 and it would post, but windows wouldnt load, I raised Tcl back up to 3, and it loaded perfectly. Havent tested it for stability yet, but I have noticed that in CPU-Z my frequency is changing a lot, before I could've sworn it was a lil more stable. Not only that, I kept the voltage at 1.425 and it is fluctuating *above that* (1.44 - 1.47) in CPU-Z also. I'm not quite sure what that means, but im a little uneasy about it, just b/c im not so skilled

Should I increase the voltage a smidge? Do i want to keep my Tcl @ 3 instead of 2.5?

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Hi and WELCOME, it's about time you joind up with the Big Dogs
Here is a good FAQ that should interest you, there are plenty others too, just click on the link in my sig for more
http://www.overclock.net/faqs/31782-...pu-memory.html

Keep the full load temp maxes at 50c for one thing Provided you have that covered, up the vcore a little more. YOu may need to drop the RAM down to involke the divider. If we knew exactically what RAM you have we could tell you more!

For Stress/Stability testing
www.memtest86 for the memory.
SP2004
http://sp2004.fre3.com/download.htm
and OCCT (My favorite for good and quick results.)
http://www.short-media.com/download.php?dc=72

Once you work on the maxes of the RAM, COU and MB check oput Gogars, it is handy
http://math.gogar.com/athlon64.cgi
Note the last colume, it relates to overall effency of the combination.
    
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Agreed with the above, keep in mind that most people (myself included) work in celsius for temps, so I'm going to assume that 90 is in farenheit. Idle temps really don't mean much unless your idle is in the 40s, at which point I wouldn't put that CPU under load until the voltage gets dropped or you buy a nicer cooler.
As you have a dual core I recomend downloading Prime95 (do a google search) and extracting it twice (two different folders, p95(1) and p95(2) ) that way you can run the program twice. Once you have it running twice go under the advanced tab and click affinity, set one program to 0 and the other to 1 (forcing one program to load core 0 and one program to load core 1) for stability testing load both programs and start a tourture test (small FFTs) let both programs run for a good hour while monitering temps, if you see the tempature rise to more than the LOW 50s stop them and drop your voltages and overclock untill you figure out a better cooling situation. ( I like to keep aibooster running to have a constant check on temps, though any decent app that reads cpu and chipset temps will work.


***IMPORTANT*** as I have an asus a8n-sli board as well I'll point out a trouble area I noticed: the chipset heats up quite a bit, and can ruin your board if you don't pay attention to it. I thought I had my cooling good to go, my cpu temps were hitting 45c at load with vcore at 1.5v and 2.8ghz. Then I ran speedfan (free app) and saw that my chipset and mobo temps were in the high 60s. I assumed it was just a software error and kept running it. Bad move. The board killed itself. The first thing I did with my new board was to carefully remove the stock heasinks and clean/apply some as5. The mobo and chipset temps are greatly improved, and my voltage has stabilized (used to wander from 1.57 to 1.52v at load for the CPU) as well (this could have been a result of the temps, or I may have just had things aranged wrong on my PSU, I took it out and sleeved it when I installed the new mobo, so I'll never know.)


***Quick edit with disclaimer***
The above is my opinion and observation. I am not an infallible source of knowledge (I can be wrong) and I don't sugjest you take anything off your motherboard unless you are completely comfortable with both voiding any form of RMA, and the idea of ruining your motherboard. Electronics are fragile (something a lot of us sometimes forget) and it is extreemly easy to destroy an otherwise perfectly working part just by improper handling. So if you see temps are getting too high drop your overclock, if you decide the possibility of an increased overclock is worth the possibility of buying a new motherboard... then look into some modification.
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thanks guys,

ahhh, what a great place

so much to do, so little time. I will be shoppin' round for a big typhoon this saturday.

I'll read over some more, tinker around a bit this weekend, and let ya'll know how shes doin
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