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It seems like a waste of money. NASA could be spending that cash on developing their own tech that would then be publicly available. Giving it to a private corporation is about as helpful as burning it.

Seeing the words "waste of money" used in contrast with NASA... I lol'd. Privatized space will lead to greater efficiency, especially once there is competition. Do you want to see space exploration as an advancing field rather than a bloated system mostly resting on laurels earned by a previous generation? Then government is not the way to go.


They're privatizing the profits, including the advancements in R&D, while socializing the expenses. I'd rather see some benefit from NASA doing its own R&D rather than no benefit from a private corp funneling tax dollars into its shareholders pockets.
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Space pirates are not far off then....
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So when can we expect artificial gravity for prolonged exposure to the harsh reality of space? thinking.gif

Already have that, rotating the living quarters of a spaceship will simulate gravity.
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Already have that, rotating the living quarters of a spaceship will simulate gravity.

But is it put to use at our current technological state? thinking.gif

Hopefully with exhibitions like this soon enough we'll have a true orbiting livable space station on a much much much larger scale than ISS.
    
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They're privatizing the profits, including the advancements in R&D, while socializing the expenses. I'd rather see some benefit from NASA doing its own R&D rather than no benefit from a private corp funneling tax dollars into its shareholders pockets.

So you think you see no benefit from private corporation R&D? Unless you live in a hut in the middle of nowhere, you are surrounded by the fruits of private research. It may take 10 to 20 years before new tech becomes affordable by the general public, but if there is competition the results will come a lot faster than it would waiting on the government to actually commit to true advancement.
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They're privatizing the profits, including the advancements in R&D, while socializing the expenses. I'd rather see some benefit from NASA doing its own R&D rather than no benefit from a private corp funneling tax dollars into its shareholders pockets.

So you think you see no benefit from private corporation R&D? Unless you live in a hut in the middle of nowhere, you are surrounded by the fruits of private research. It may take 10 to 20 years before new tech becomes affordable by the general public, but if there is competition the results will come a lot faster than it would waiting on the government to actually commit to true advancement.


The difference is, who is paying for it and who is profiting from it?

Intel pays for and profits from Intel's R&D.

I'm paying for and SET Corp. is profiting from NASA's outsourcing. Technologies they develop with tax revenue will be privately held, with no public oversight of who gets to use them or for what. However, technologies developed by NASA cannot be held as exclusive IP by NASA's partners without the agreement first being approved by the tax-paying public.

If SET Corp. were paying for their own research, perhaps by offering space-rides to the super-wealthy, I would not complain. But they are not paying for it, just profiting from it. They have no economic incentive for space travel other than suckling the government's teat.
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It seems like a waste of money. NASA could be spending that cash on developing their own tech that would then be publicly available. Giving it to a private corporation is about as helpful as burning it.

Best part is the tax payers pay for it....then we have to pay to use it ~_~
    
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And yet the alternative is... nothing. NASA's greatest exploratory achievement occurred before I was even born. Now the space shuttle system is retired and its successor is just as big a money sink, costing billions of taxpayer money. Space X's projected costs are a drop in NASA's bucket. If we want real advancement in manned space exploration, NASA is not going to be where that's going to happen. They just eat up money, because that's what government organizations do. So what if some space related patents are privately held? Patents are privately held in every other industry, and with the exception of some fruity behavior in recent years, we've gotten along just fine.

Trust in industry to get results.
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space related patents are privately held

ohhhhh boy the future is going to be fun
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Seeing the words "waste of money" used in contrast with NASA... I lol'd. Privatized space will lead to greater efficiency, especially once there is competition. Do you want to see space exploration as an advancing field rather than a bloated system mostly resting on laurels earned by a previous generation? Then government is not the way to go.

NASA did have competition. Russia, China, India, and Japan. Namely. Many of the things we take for granted these days were inventions directly related to NASA's R and D.

http://gizmodo.com/5061120/50-consumer-technologies-developed-by-nasa-in-the-last-50-years

Perhaps you didn't know the lithium battery in your phone and laptop was developed by NASA engineers.


Now imagine if APPLE had the patent on that technology. how much would your precious phone cost then. A hell of a lot more because corporations are well known for driving up the price of patent owned technologies.
 
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