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And it comes with an MSI Twin Frozr III GTX 560 ti 448core
Overclocked, this GPU will perform closer to or even beating a stock GTX 580. It's THE bang for the buck card at the moment.
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4455/msi_gtx_560_ti_448_1280mb_twin_frozr_iii_power_edition_video_card_overclocked/index.html

Thanks smile.gif

I get it in time, I'll grab this

If not,

I'll still cancel at PCS.

Then see what deals Scan.co.uk have when I get my money back into my account.
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Wanted to see what I could do without the bundle. Image (Click to show)
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£838.99 total.
$1309.33

Changes compared to willibj w/ supersaver
Asrock Extreme4 Gen3
8GB Vengence
CM HAF 912
Blu ray reader + dvdwriter


Scan is like Newegg on LN2. Sick site. Even has a built in Rigbuilder in the 'basket'
I have to say I'm jelly. I can only laugh at NCIX now.

My only gripe is you can't collapse/expand the today only deals.
 
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I freakin LOVE the Asrock Extreme Gen3 Z68 boards. They're magnificent. Nice build.

You lost 1tb in HDD storage but gained an extra 4gb RAM and an upgrade to Blu-ray.

The CM 912 is indeed a nice case. My case choice was due to price-constraints in the end. Budgets require sacrifice, unless they're unlimited. That's why my next build will be relatively unlimited lol. Think I'm gonna shoot for a fully watercooled Ivy Bridge system with dual GPU's, either AMD or nVidia's latest and greatest next year. Can't freakin wait smile.gif
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Yeah. i just figure OP should grab the 1TB when the prices drop back to what they were.
Especially if he already has storage or does lovefilm/streaming
In the end its about 100 pounds over budget (before sales).


Just for fun, I used Newegg to build the same computer (more or less).
Turns out prices before tax are fairly close. Newegg Version (Click to show)
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686 GBP ($1070.6) vs $1103
You guys get killed by the tax though.
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I get the premise behind such a rationale, but in reality it doesn't make sense ... to me at least.

I don't know why you would "wait till the prices go down" regarding the HDD when it's already included under budget in my build.

I also wouldn't personally recommend running the system with just the SSD. It's much better to have an SSD/HDD combo for reliability and so forth. Running the OS from an SSD and all programs and games and such from the HDD is much better for all reasons involved.

I get the fun of changing the builds around and trying new things out, but lets be careful not to confuse and thus mislead the OP. There's really no reason to mess with the build I put together above, simply because the additions presented above do not grant any real or worthwhile upgrade. They're superficial for the most part. That is, extra RAM and a Bluray drive are easy but initially unnecessary additions. 4gb of RAM is enough for now, and can be changed for minimal investment and effort later. DVD to Bluray is the same. Not ultimately necessary and cheap/easy to change.

Personally I would prefer having a 1tb drive from the outset for backups of the OS drive and storage space etc, not to mention a worthy drive in case the SSD fails for some reason. The different motherboard and case won't perform any better or grant the OP anything essentially different - again not worth the sacrifices being made.

Perhaps it's simply my opinion, but in attempting to be objective, I couldn't in all good conscience advise the extra cost and lost HDD for the minimal changes.
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How does this look - - this is without Specials - So I could get this anytime.

Intel Core i5 2500K,
1280MB MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr 3 Power Edition/OC
ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3, Intel Z68
8GB Corsair Vengeance Blue DDR3 PC3-12800(1600)
Nighthawk Tower Case Full Black
550W PSU, Antec TruePower Modular
Coolermaster Hyper 612S
80 GB WD HDD (Have 1TB here, so just one to boot off)

This comes to £804 - so in my budget (Just)

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Obviously I'd get what I can on the specials.

This is just here so I could get it - if I don't get the money back in time for some decent specials.
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Okay. Do not purchase a build where you have an SSD, but no secondary storage HDD.

I'm typing up a message to spiritgear right now to explain the logistics of it, but basically you will destroy the SSD within a year if you do that.

An SSD is not built like a standard HDD's platter system, which allows basically infinite re-writes to the drive. When you write a file to an SSD, it basically destroys the write capacity to that specific byte on the drive. Once you have written to all of the bytes, then you can no longer write to the SSD, but can still access the data. Note: This is in layman's terms, if you want to get more into the technical details go ahead and do some research.

This is not a problem at all if you have a secondary HDD, Windows and Browsers write thousands of files a day to your main drive. If you have this set up as your SSD, and do nothing to change how windows saves files to the partition, then you will burn out the write potential of your SSD.

You need to move all temporary saves of your OS and your browser to the secondary HDD, as well as some other things like the my documents, downloads, etc folders.

I cannot stress this enough, never buy a build or suggest a build with an SSD unless you are buying or own a HDD as well.
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How does this look - - this is without Specials - So I could get this anytime.
Intel Core i5 2500K,
1280MB MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr 3 Power Edition/OC
ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3, Intel Z68
8GB Corsair Vengeance Blue DDR3 PC3-12800(1600)
Nighthawk Tower Case Full Black
550W PSU, Antec TruePower Modular
Coolermaster Hyper 612S
80 GB WD HDD (Have 1TB here, so just one to boot off)
This comes to £804 - so in my budget (Just)
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Obviously I'd get what I can on the specials.
This is just here so I could get it - if I don't get the money back in time for some decent specials.

Looks pretty good. Here is a review of that psu:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=140

Keep in mind, that if you have an old laptop sitting around you can use the HDD from that as your secondary drive, and buy the M4 as your primary drive.
Edited by Grief - 12/10/11 at 1:46pm
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Okay. Do not purchase a build where you have an SSD, but no secondary storage HDD.
I'm typing up a message to spiritgear right now to explain the logistics of it, but basically you will destroy the SSD within a year if you do that.
An SSD is not built like a standard HDD's platter system, which allows basically infinite re-writes to the drive. When you write a file to an SSD, it basically destroys the write capacity to that specific byte on the drive. Once you have written to all of the bytes, then you can no longer write to the SSD, but can still access the data. Note: This is in layman's terms, if you want to get more into the technical details go ahead and do some research.
This is not a problem at all if you have a secondary HDD, Windows and Browsers write thousands of files a day to your main drive. If you have this set up as your SSD, and do nothing to change how windows saves files to the partition, then you will burn out the write potential of your SSD.
You need to move all temporary saves of your OS and your browser to the secondary HDD, as well as some other things like the my documents, downloads, etc folders.
I cannot stress this enough, never buy a build or suggest a build with an SSD unless you are buying or own a HDD as well.
Looks pretty good. Here is a review of that psu:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=140
Keep in mind, that if you have an old laptop sitting around you can use the HDD from that as your secondary drive, and buy the M4 as your primary drive.

Thanks,

If I can some on specials - then I'll some money left over, - If I have enough I'll either consider Water Cooling - or an SSD for Windows.

Had to drop the Cooler to a 212 Plus - so I could afford a DVD Drive - I thought I missing something...
Edited by Celisuis - 12/10/11 at 1:52pm
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ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3, Intel Z68
8GB Corsair Vengeance Blue DDR3 PC3-12800(1600)

Make sure you get the black set of ram so it'll match the ASRock.
And if you already have a 1TB there's no reason in getting another HDD.

use the money for an ssd
Edited by SpiritGear - 12/10/11 at 2:04pm
 
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