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Originally Posted by dlee7283 View Post

u would rather spend a thousand on a 990x over 250 on a 8150?
and you honestly don't think AMD couldn't release a AMD FX Extreme for $500 that couldn't smoke the 990X at $1,000?
I am talking about price vs performance $250 vs $1,000. I can use that $750 dollars to improve the computer across the board by a significant amount.

and I would never put the 8150 against SB-E like you just did.

Damn skippy. 750$ is the vast majority of your core components....
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u would rather spend a thousand on a 990x over 250 on a 8150?
and you honestly don't think AMD couldn't release a AMD FX Extreme for $500 that couldn't smoke the 990X at $1,000?
I am talking about price vs performance $250 vs $1,000. I can use that $750 dollars to improve the computer across the board by a significant amount.

and I would never put the 8150 against SB-E like you just did.

Like i said previously, the 990x is worth it if you are running the right apps that can take advantage of 6 cores. If you are running an application that can't be accelerated by a GPU, and will use 6 cores, then it definitely is worth it to buy the $1000 cpu.
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Because it gets trashed by the $1000 offering. For 210 you can get a 2500k that has better price to performance than the bulldozer
/End your fanboy clouded dribble please. I does not matter Intel released sandy bridge months and months ago. And in just a few more ivy bridge comes out. What are you gonna do still say we can't compare it to sandy bridge then even though it will be only one generation behind? Come on man AMD dropped the ball they are not horrible processors but they are nothing special ether, perhaps they will rectify it with piledriver we can only hope.

just going by price/performance ratio my friend

already said that SB has Bulldozer beat in that area by a significant amount just as Bulldozer has price/performance on Gulftown.

Gulftown is still on the market, until its not I will hold my beliefs and now resign from this thread.
    
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just going by price/performance ratio my friend
already said that SB has Bulldozer beat in that area by a significant amount just as Bulldozer has price/performance on Gulftown.
Gulftown is still on the market, until its not I will hold my beliefs and now resign from this thread.

Intel is retiring the 1156 and 1366 sockets they already announced that rolleyes.gif
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Intel is retiring the 1156 and 1366 sockets they already announced that rolleyes.gif

775 was retired and most of it CPU's did not come down in price at all and still sell on the egg.

the 990x will still be able to purchase for around 1,000 for at least the next year by various retailers.
    
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775 was retired and most of it CPU's did not come down in price at all and still sell on the egg.

Would you rather them not let you get a cpu for a motherboard that you have? They do that for the customers convenience because buying a motherboard and ram is often more of a cost than just a cpu. However this comes at a premium because they are not mass producing the chips anymore.
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The BD is right where AMD said it would be. The i5 does not destroy the BD. The BD destroys 2500K in multithreading and is hardly off that much with single core performance. Me and my friend did comparison like stated above. Both cpus overclocked to 5GHz. Once BD hits 4.8Ghz+ its scales very well. Overall BD is a better processor than 2500K if overclocked over 4.8GHz. I dont understand how people can sit there and talk trash on a cpu that they probably have never seen let alone experienced. I think you guys just like to hear yourselves talk. Me and my budy did many comparisons with the two processors and there is nowhere that the 2500K just destroys the BD. Also, BD is running on scheduler that is not optimized.

Obviously you and your buddy are the experts.

Some of us, like myself do actually have jobs in this industry and our experience goes beyond sitting in your bedroom with your buddy running benchmarks. rolleyes.gif
 
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I woudl like to see this proof cause I have seen my own proof that proves this incorrect. Please send me proof of this alond with setting of each cpu and which tests were done. This is very hard to believe when comparing to tests that I have done with i5 and 8120. Hope you get back to us soon.
This is the dumbest thing I have heard all day.
The BD is right where AMD said it would be. The i5 does not destroy the BD. The BD destroys 2500K in multithreading and is hardly off that much with single core performance. Me and my friend did comparison like stated above. Both cpus overclocked to 5GHz. Once BD hits 4.8Ghz+ its scales very well. Overall BD is a better processor than 2500K if overclocked over 4.8GHz. I dont understand how people can sit there and talk trash on a cpu that they probably have never seen let alone experienced. I think you guys just like to hear yourselves talk. Me and my budy did many comparisons with the two processors and there is nowhere that the 2500K just destroys the BD. Also, BD is running on scheduler that is not optimized.
Just so you guys know that 8150 was to be released at $240 not 270 or whatever theyre selling it at. The BD defintely compares with 2500K no problem and will probably outperform it once W7 patch comes. When I first got my 8120 at release I was disappointed a little but then ASUS provided bios updates which increased performance a little and increased stability a lot. I am running at 5GHz stable no problems and it runs like a dream. I work with 2500 at work as well and I defintely prefer 8120 at home for what I use it for. Like mentioned earlier, 2500K cannot handle multitasking like BD can. Thats just the way it is. I like to do many things at one time and I used to have to keep the opened programs down to a minimum with intel but with BD i dont. I can be running ten programs at once and not have to worry about performance decrease as I do with i5. Until you guys experience BD you shouldn't talk about it like you designed the damn thing. The way you guys talk sound like you work at both intel and amd testing centers. Sound like a bunch of kids who wish they knew what they are talking about. Arguing back and forth about something that comes down to opinion only. Its like trying to tell a Christian there's no GOD. Rediculous.
Another thing too is that BD is a brand new architecture that amd has had no experience with. This is the biggest change for amd in a long time. Along with other new architectures that weren't so great when first released were optimized and turned out to be great processors. (Ex: Phenom, Pentium). BD is a good processor and once the optimizations are made and revisions come out along with optimized scheduler it will turn out to be a great processor and things will only get better from there. AMD is headed in the right direction and they will be in a great position by the end of next year. I would put money on it. You guys can talk all you want about how much you think I am wrong but I can atleast admit that it is my opinion and that really anything can happen. Unlike you were you will sit there and say that you and everything you say is right and thats the way it going to be. For those of you that think you are right all the time and that everything you say is fact, you probably whine when you dont get your way to your parents until they give you what you want. Spoiled little brats and you will be **** out of luck when your on your own and have to take care of yourself. I feel sorry for you but then again I really dont. Guess you'll just have to learn the hard way.
Back to the point of the thread. I am not sure why BD is selling out so well but I do know that its not because it has "8-cores" stamped on it or "guiness record". I can assure you that the average joe is not buying up all the BD's. Like stated before the most people dont know about the BD. Average joe buys there pc 's from best buy or walmart and they dont even sell prebuilt desktops with BD. The informed are the ones that buy the BD out. Maybe you should take a step back and think maybe Bulldozer isn't as bad as "I" think it is. BD is not a bad processor. BD is not the best processor. Intel has the best processor. No doubt about it. I hear a lot of people talking about why 8 cores most apps dont use 2 or 4 cores. But then you see phones coming out with dual core processors. Multithreaded apps are soon to be especially with intel hyperthreading and amd bd. Apps will start to become very multithreaded. Those who think otherwise are just lost. The BD is far from a failure and will soon turn out to be a great cpu for amd. Especially when win7 patch or win8 and bd revisions and bios' fine tuned and Piledriver eventually will be a beast. Yeah intel has some amazing processors and will probably be on top for a while but amd is headed in the right direction. The only reason there has been word going around about BD is grabage is because people like "you" listen to other people like "you". If you want to know what I am talking about then go to Bulldozer owner forum and ask some of them yourself. I know plenty of people who used to own high end intel processor that bought BD and is very happy with its performance. Until you experience BD for yourself then what you say means nothing and you should just stop talking because you are just making yourself look like a fool. BD defintely compares to 2500K when overclocked over 4.8Ghz+. No doubt about it. It gets old hearing the same crap being spit out about BD just because they heard it from someone else that knows nothing about the BD either. Its actually kind of funny seeing how gullible some of you really are. Stop acting like a bunch of kids. Its like listening to two little kids arguing, "my bike is better than yours, neener neener neener, hahaha." If all you do is waste your time arguing on forums of how you think your stuff is better than someone else's, you might was well have a 500Mhz single core processor. Whats the point of having a nice i5 or i7 just to sit on OCN and talk about how much better yours is. Stop playing with yourselves and do something with your lives.
Anyway, I am very happy with the performance of my BD and if you are thinking about picking one up for youself then dont listen to these guys who just talk trash about it. Go get your info from BD owners and ask them what they think of it and how well it performs for them and what they use it for. The next cpu I will buy will be the 2nd revision PileDriver. If PileDriver is even just 5% better than BD I will be very happy. By then win8 will be out and the optimizations for the new architecture will be done and bios will be fine tuned and stable and I think PileDriver then will be twice as sweet as BD is right now.
I use my BD for 3D Design, AutoCAD, BF3, MW3, COD Black Ops, Video Editing, Video Converting, Movies, SimCity4, AOE III and many other things and my 8120 works better than most other cpu I have used overall. (i5 2500 i7 950, i5 650, i3 550, E6500, Phenom II, Athlon II, ) I did not say that BD is better than all these cpus but overall it performed better than most for what I use it for. It all comes down to personal preference and opinion. Stop trying to convince everone one that what they want it what you want because its not. Everyone has their own needs and wants. Most of the time it is completely opposite of you or me. Let people make their own decision. It's fine that you have your own thought and beliefs but when you try to convince everyone that they are fact, then you are just making yourself not look smart.
Like I said before, talk to the BD owners about their experience to come up with your own opinion of the BD. Dont just take someone else word for it who hasn't experienced one and probably is just repeating what he/she heard from someone else.
Also, most of what I said above is opinion so dont try to come back with your opinion and tell me I am wrong. I never said anyone was wrong, I am simply stating my opinion. I can care less if you believe it.
Dont waste your time trying to argue with me. If you do, dually noted.
Hope I could help. Thanks
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How come everyone is bashing the fact that they can barely keep these on the shelves?

This is amazingly good news, even if your an Intel fan. When I read the reviews, and saw the benchmarks I was scared of how much this would hurt AMD. (Less sales = Less R&D) and unless the executives at AMD are brain dead, they know they need to be more innovative if they want any chance of survival.

I am by no means an AMD fanboy, but I do remember the years when Intel had little competition, and I still ill-feelings toward them. Even with them producing such high quality products.
 
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Would you rather them not let you get a cpu for a motherboard that you have? They do that for the customers convenience because buying a motherboard and ram is often more of a cost than just a cpu. However this comes at a premium because they are not mass producing the chips anymore.

its been a thousand for a while and will continue to be a thousand in the future, what are u talking about when u say "premium"

This argument has gone on for hours, I really need to get off here lol.
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