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I know this is slightly off topic, but what grip do you use, and how does it feel compared to the DA, or even IME 3.0 if youve had that one

Need to get a new mouse soon, and since the ime 3.0 is not being made anymore, ive had my eyes on the only mouse there is with a good sensor
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I use a finger tip grip style. If you have big hands, this mouse will feel a bit small at first, and certainly less.. conformed to your hand? I'm not sure how to put that. I love how it reacts faster and is more accurate than the DeathAdder. I'm fairly sure the DeathAdder has negative sensitivity, after using the Zowie AM. With the DeathAdder, I would leave it at 1800 DPI, 6th notch to the right in Windows sensitivity, 2.69 sensitivity in Counter-Strike with Raw Input enabled. With the Zowie, I am put back to 1150 DPI, I moved the slider in Windows to the right one notch (7th notch) and it is fairly similar, just a TAD faster.

I definitely will nevr use the DeathAdder for anything bu Osu, now that I have the Zowie AM. My only real beef with this mouse, is how tough the scroll wheel is. The DeathAdder has 0 resistance, while the Am is the complete opposite, forcing you to go through hard notches. it is also worth mentioning that the scroll wheel is smaller, but taller, so the feel is totally different. It may not seem like a big deal, but I use it for changing weapons in CS; I'm so used to flicking the mouse wheel to where I want it, now I have to grind it.

A good thing to note, this mouse comes in two revisions; one with the glossy finish, and one with rubberized. I went with glossy because I had a habit of picking up the DeathAdder, the 0 lift off distance of the Am does not make this a good thing to do, and I found that with my friend's rubberized finish, I was accidentally lifting the mouse a lot on side to side adjustments. I would not go with rubberized unless you sweat profusely or something like that

TL;DR- if you want to dedicate a few weeks to using the AM and getting used to its features, then i would go for it. I have noticed it is far more accurate in fast swiping situations and in overall accuracy. If you are comfortable with the Deathadder right now and don't really feel like throwing your comfort into the wind; don't do it.


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Edited by Inuyasha1771 - 3/17/12 at 5:11pm
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post #413 of 696
Well, im kind of a mix between fingertip and palm gripping my IME 3.0, which is quite a bit larger than DA, I did have a DA once, but the sides just got to me, i even sanded them down, but then the scroll wheel started bugging me cause of phantom scrolls and so (1800 dpi version), reason im looking at the AM is because i can have non glossy sides, fairly large mouse, in length, but its quite a bit less wide than the IME 3.0 on the sides apparently, and i dont know about the scroll, or if you feel the right side buttons if you kinda palm it (my hands are 17cm from wrist to top of my index finger) the hard buttons i dont mind that much i think, people always rage about how hard MX blacks are on keyboards, but they arent, i bottom those out like im on pcp!


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post #414 of 696
yeah our hands are almost the exact same from wrist base to index finger tip. Yeah I had the 1800DPI version. Both have the scroll wheel issue, but it never bothered me in games, only in windows. I think some people are just too pampered by easily bottomed out switches, and don't want to put any more effort into doing something. Or maybe you're like me, and type hunt and peck, not home row.

At first, the side switches were hitting my ring finger knuckle's inside (right side buttons, not left haha) but I don't notice them now. They don't do anything on the right side anyway. if you want a mouse that's BIGGEr, I don't think you'll like this mouse.. I'm not sure if they dimensions state that its bigger, but the way the mouse surface is pitched, it feels a lot shorter, since the slope is more severe.
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post #415 of 696
Just don't understand how you feel more accuarate with a sensor which is tweaked in a way that is less precise and you're using it in the worst setting possible.
Set the AM in 450dpi + 500hz to avoid jittering.
Set hte AM in 2300dpi + 500hz to get max tracking rates, but lower windows sensitivity to avoid jittering.
post #416 of 696
I don't use statistics, I use my own feel of the mouse; I don't care if it " jitters", I don't notice it, and it is comfortable. My neighbor said the same thing about me using the "wrong" settings. If they work, why are they wrong? I think it's ridiculous to only use something in its optimal settings, even if it means having to change how you do things. I understand I am supposed to fine tune the setting in Windows, and then even further by changingm y CS sensitivity, but it is excellent right where it is. I kill people, and that's all that matters to me
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post #417 of 696
nothing wrong with using your own settings, it's just good to know that you might be able to perform at a higher level with optimal settings, and obviously you're not going to be instantly better - probably worse than you were initially after changing settings since it takes time to get used to.
post #418 of 696
Nah, i touch type.

The mouse dosent need to be larger than the ime, the DA and MX510\518\G400 just felt small cause theyre so short, and the jump on the back is way too steep, I have been using omroms for .. well forever since the MX510 came out, But i dont mind a little change there, the scroll wheel is important though, since i like the way my fixed IME 3.0 wheel feels, which is smooth, but you can definatly feel the detetens
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My Zowie AM broke.

Highlighting stuff in RTS and even windows is now annoying as f**k.
When I make those "boxes" to highlight units, sometimes it just stops at a random point and starts on another, as if I release mouse1 in the middle of drawing that box.
Pretty annoying.

edit:
Gone back to my Xai again, and as expected the mousebuttons feel spongy, there almost no feedback compared to the AM.
As expected this whole omron vs huano stuff is just a matter of getting used to.
though the huanos broke faster at it seems.
Edited by beute - 3/18/12 at 12:29pm
post #420 of 696
I experienced the same. After one month the buttons broke in more and more, from week to week. I guess they reached their final state now and I hope so because the clicks are really responsive and not thar hard like on the first week anymore. Really liking them now.


by the way: did anyone else notice an instant drop of available shops that have the AM for sale in europe (germany here) ??
I can only find a handful of online shops now. Last week there were more than 3 times as many. Wonder what's going on.
The Zowie page now has many new mouse pads, a mx red celeritas and the eVo mice.
Edited by detto87 - 3/19/12 at 6:42pm
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