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post #581 of 714
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Originally Posted by Diogenes5 View Post

I am using D2F-01F's right now in me and I would 100% disagree with you. It "feels" lighter than the AM but it still requires too much force to depress making double clicking incredibly difficult when done repeatedly. My EC2 Evo was worthless for SC2 before and now it's perfect. It makes a world of difference.
I think the main reason Zowie uses Huano is because of cost, branding (the switches actually say Zowie on them), and the fact that a lot of the pros they advertise design their mice are FPS players that don't require as much apm from their mouse.
It's silly to close off a large part of the market since MOBA and RTS' require easy clicking for faster actions.
When you're wrote "D2F-01F" did you meant D2F-01FL ?
Beacause I have to disagree with you again, neither wont to show-off but one of reasons that I keep "bashing" (not really bashing but more like "going against the flow") you guys is beacause that first of all I'm very biased, secondly is the hype going around here with the 7N and the overall sensors-freak thingys are not always being true or correct in all cases (most people here are just looking for the max speed as possible without look even about how fast they are moving their hands themselfs or without look on another things but "wooo my mouse's sensor can tracks perfectly to about 4m/s!!!!!!").
Without menation the big hype going around the AD700&500 and in headphones forum, but I just saying

I have KinzuAdder made by Thunda and he uses the same switchs you had worked with, I also have broken IME3.0 so I got 7N pulled off and I can test exactly what going on between each of the switchs, I also have EC1 black from the early versions (much lighter feeling than my EC1 Evo and EC2 BLUE) you can easily can tell that when testing around so thats probably 7N too, the thing is, that mouse's clicks are very soft and I can easily double clicking it, it goes not going well toghether.

Also, high force overall clicks gives you technically better control.

I always was picky about these things and in fact I'm one of the responsibles for the thread "all mice are crap", but now I just know that you guys (and as you see, I'm seperating myself from the hype in here) need to basically understand that you will ever have a perfect mouse in your hand beacause the company need to sell first and then focus on the overall quality - some do it "balanced" (steelseries with thier Xai, Zowie prodcuts) and some do it for more selling than make a quality product for the mice-freaks (such as razer).

I dont even have desire to sorry about my english... hairysmiley.png


Edit: just saying, I still dont understand how people can find it too hard for they liking (EC's series case) - just get used to it or better workout
Edited by avinin1 - 7/15/12 at 12:57pm
post #582 of 714
01FL is the hinge lever version of the 01F.
Edited by Skylit - 7/15/12 at 3:54pm
post #583 of 714
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Originally Posted by avinin1 View Post


Edit: just saying, I still dont understand how people can find it too hard for they liking (EC's series case) - just get used to it or better workout

We can agree to disagree. I believe that after modding my EC2 Evo is the perfect mouse. My CM Storm Spawn came close but the lack of length made it more straining for my hand to use for everyday purposes due to the strain caused.

Higher Force to depress a switch, however, does not make a mouse easier to control. I don't know where you got that idea from but it defies the laws of physics.

If it takes twice as much force to depress a switch, double clicking is that much harder as after the first depression, you have to relax your finger and then reassert that force. Many on this site have complained about this quality of Huano switches.

Not only that it is very difficult to always make sure that your finger is directing that force so that it is absolutely perpendicular to the switch trying to be depressed. Your hand will shift during games and part of that force will often be directed at an angle, causing your mouse to move as well. If the force required to depress a switch is higher, the mouse is more likely to move. This is terrible for control and accuracy.

Huano switches are just a huge design mistake on Zowie's part and a sad one since switches are relatively cheap anyways and Zowie is catering to a very knowledgable group of gamers that are willing to pay more for quality.
post #584 of 714
Why should I get used to something I do not enjoy like the Huano.
There are better mice for me with omrons.

Evo could have been something for me if they used omron and not the stupid DPI toggles they have, 1150 zzz.
post #585 of 714
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Originally Posted by avinin1 View Post

Also, high force overall clicks gives you technically better control.

I think you are kind of right there, more control- when harder to press. I have played over a month now with the am, (with am switches) and have exchanged them couple of days ago with some omrons - my expirience is that harder to press switches assist better in one-shot/action situations, while softer switches work better for longer-aim situations for example drawing circles or using machine-gun, pg or lg if you play quake \m/ - its easier to lock-on, i use fingertip and i had no problems with executing double/fast clicking the AM huanos. To me its personal preference, maybe comparable with the question about a "speed" or a "control" version of a mousepad - only other axis. smile.gif
post #586 of 714
tell me guys how can I customize zowie mouse4 & 5 button... ? can i change default actions with this mouse button in windows ? how ?
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsHard Drive
i920 @ 4.4GHz 1.39v H20 Asus RIIE HD5870 Intel SSD G2 80GB & Vertex 2 60GB 
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Windows 8 x64 Dell 2209WA ; BenQ XL2420T DAS Keyboard Silent (Cherry MX Brown) Enermax Rev+ 1050W 
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CM HAF932 DA 3G & IME 3.0 LE ; G500 & Zowie EC1 & EC2  QcK+ 
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Windows 8 x64 Dell 2209WA ; BenQ XL2420T DAS Keyboard Silent (Cherry MX Brown) Enermax Rev+ 1050W 
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CM HAF932 DA 3G & IME 3.0 LE ; G500 & Zowie EC1 & EC2  QcK+ 
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post #587 of 714
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tell me guys how can I customize zowie mouse4 & 5 button... ? can i change default actions with this mouse button in windows ? how ?
Download a software called 'XMouseButtonControlSetup.2.2'
post #588 of 714
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Originally Posted by DeMS View Post

You'll find this mouse is consistant at around 2.9m/s on 1150 CPI.

Seem about right. With my 21cm/360 sensitivity the highest in-game speed I reach is 0.95m/s. Most of the time tho its a lot lower than 0.95. So 2.9m/s is plenty. I think 40-50cm/360 players should be ok too.
post #589 of 714
Zowie AM White ^^...

post #590 of 714
if that's full glossy i'm definitely getting one!
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