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post #621 of 714
I don't know of any thing wrong with the latest AMs that you will be purchasing these days.

If you don't have an EC Evo I would suggest the EC2 Evo over the AM because the Evo performs better than the AM especially at the lowest setting. It is shorter though.

I was testing the AM and it appears to have higher CPI than the box states. The steps are more like 450 x 1.37, 900 x 1.37, 1800 x 1.37. I get 2.5m/s at both 1000Hz and 500Hz tested at 600 CPI. I think the lens is HIGHER in magnification or maybe the hight of the lens is different. Either way the LOD seems lower than the EC Evo and if I remember correctly it has higher CPI than the Evo. I don't have my EC2 Evo right now to double check, I only have my EC2 original.

I am not really happy with this mouse compared to the EC1/2 Evos I bought.

If your a higher sensitivity player that uses a black mouse pad then you may want to buy this mouse. If you use any mouse pads that are not pure black do not buy this mouse. If you are the kind of person that will open it up and mess around with the internals you might want this as a modable mouse. The mod I would suggest is to get an original Avago lens and fit it to the AM. If you don't like Huano switches you can then change them with Omrons. If you do this I think the mouse will be great compared to the stock state. Those people who want to try to put a 3090 into a Intellimouse use the EC Evo's PCB over the AM's.

I will end up changing the lens on this mouse when I can get one, I will leave the switches.

So anyone know where I can get Avago lenses cheap and easily? I have a few Zowies to save.

Edit: I more throughly tested the AM after I cleaned the lens and the claimed 1150 and 2300 steps are about 1.38 times the native of 900 and 1800. The claimed 450 step is higher at around 508 CPI but not the 450 x 1.37 which I assumed due to the other steps and in game sensitivity.

If only I had my EC2 Evo to compare it to the AM. Have to wait on that and edit again.
Edited by popups - 12/6/12 at 10:34am
post #622 of 714
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The Zowie AM size is approximately 60mm in the front, 59mm in the middle, 65mm at the end, 125mm long and 38-39mm tall.
I think the difference in feel for the height is the angle of the side's taper and how flat the top is in combination with that. I don't like it much. I think the Intellimouse Optical has more angle to its taper.
Would be nice if they changed it to something like 63mm front, 61mm middle, 64-65mm rear, 125mm long and 42mm tall. They could give the taper more angle and round the apex to support the middle finger knuckle / the web between the index and middle finger. They could also raise the scroll wheel a millimeter, maybe a millimeter forward and extend the finger rest for the scroll wheel all the way to the front like the Intellimouse. Move the cable up a millimeter or two and add strain relief to it as well as a ferrite. The bottom of the mouse also should have more of the surface reduce, like the sticker area, so the bottom doesn't scrape on the mouse pad like it does.
They should upgrade their MCU, change the lens to a standard Avago 1.0x magnification lens and do the proper programming to achieve a lift off distance of 2mm with 0.5mm mouse feet on red/orange/yellow and 2.6mm on black. The current lens has a piece that blocks the lens (I am probably using the wrong words) that gets dirty easily which makes the mouse malfunction. This piece can be easily scratched, rendering the mouse unusable.
Thair shell internally should be changed to remove all movement of the scroll wheel other than actuating the mouse 3 button. As I believe it makes the wheel feel much better and stops the issues that I have had with a malfunctioning wheel on an EC.
They should package the mouse cord differently than the current compressed zig zag. Put it in the box in a gentle circular fashion so I don't have to boil the cable to straighten it out.
If they did this I think people that didn't like the mouse would and the current users would favor it more. Putting aside the Huano switches (you can change them if you don't like them) and the optical encoder (people are used to TTC mechanicals but this design is more durable.)

 

A Microcontroller upgrade wont yield much. Maybe slightly higher IPS, but you're reliant on programing and experience of a specific model or generation.  Reasoning and choice goes beyond that of public view.

 

I see you're still feeding into marketing though ^^

post #623 of 714
Wouldn't a better MCU than the current one give the Zowie more performance just is general? From what I have seen it can give more IPS and possibly Gs. The current 2.5m/s (which I rounded to) at the "450" step is to low. I personally reach 2.41m/s in FPS games. So if a newer MCU can give more IPS the better. Changing the lens should give more IPS than a new MCU but wouldn't a better MCU give the sensor a higher potential for performance? Let's say a mouse can reach 4m/s with its current MCU, would it go up to 5m/s with a better MCU?

Is better performance when stepping down the hertz of the mouse an indicator of a poor MCU? Because I get slightly performance when I step down to 500Hz and way better at 125Hz.

Well in my mind the way the ratchet is designed in the Zowies is more durable than the TTC's mechanical. Irrespective of Zowies' claims. The wheel's grooves and the clip that applies pressure does look like it would last longer if the materials are good. I surely don't believe Zowies' claimed CPI steps. I am starting to think they are lying on the box to cover for the lower performance of the AM at the lowest CPI step.
Edited by popups - 12/6/12 at 3:47am
post #624 of 714
Any info about "new AM"? Can be seen at this photo:
http://static.hltv.org/images/galleries/5290-full/1353592940.4885.jpeg
Filip 'neo' Kubski cooperating with Zowie and I think he is a tester of new mouse.
post #625 of 714
Looks like a regular AM to me.
post #626 of 714
It's slightly larger. Looks at the position on the side buttons (positioned lower suggesting higher mouse)
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post #628 of 714
It was already mentioned that he is using prototype of AM before Final AM came out...
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post #629 of 714
I would like to have that version. I know one of their prototypes was very close to what I would want.


That is more like it but still needs some changes.
Edited by popups - 12/6/12 at 3:50pm
post #630 of 714
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I would like to have that version. I know one of their prototypes was very close to what I would want.

A 1.1 clone? I really hope they release something like that.
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