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I’m looking for help picking out a pump and reservoir to fit in a fairly small case; imagine the Lian Li PC-V353 but 10-20mm longer and 5-10mm taller. I will be cooling an i5 2500k @ 4Ghz and a mildly overclocked 560 ti each with an SR1 240 rad and Gentle Typhoons / San Ace silents / Noiseblocker Multiframes, possibly with shrouds if space allows. A Seasonic X650/660/750/760 (whichever of the four I get the best price on) will power the whole thing.

The PSU occupies 150mm of space from the case rear, and the radiator + fan takes 80mm from the front. That leaves a 290mm (W) x 135mm (H) x 170mm (D) gap to work with, assuming 400mm case length, of available space in the top chamber. In the bottom chamber, the radiator + fan should leave a roughly 20-30mm gap between the fan and the motherboard tray, again assuming 400mm overall case length.

Some searching here and elsewhere suggests the 655 and PMP 450 are great, very quiet pumps, but I don't know how small they are. Martin showed that decoupling made the biggest difference in sound reduction, so that will be a given. I'm not sure about a res or how to go about choosing one. Blocks are likewise unknowns to me, though I imagine low-restriction blocks would be best to reduce the pump's workload. A res/pump combo might be a good option too, given the space available in the top chamber; again, I’m at loss for what will fit, what kind of blocks would be needed, etc.
Edited by BBEG - 12/13/11 at 7:32am
    
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With that setup I'd have to say a MCP355 with a small pump top res would work the best in that small of a configuration...as for the rads, that's tough without seeing the layout of the case.
 
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The 655 is a very quiet pump although it isn't the smallest. The 35X is small but can be loud when run at full speed. I have found running a 35X at lower speeds is fairly quiet (I can still hear it with my ear right against it) when it is decoupled.
The block choice won't make a significant difference in noise, the voltage (PWM for a 35X) of the pump is much more important. However pumps use more power when the loop has less restriction (see Martins testing here).
 
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Pumps use more power with less restriction? headscratch.gif

Would anyone mind linking me to a small res that would work with the 35X pump? Would a single pump suffice for a dual-loop system or should I be looking at the dual-pump combos like those from EK and XSPC?
    
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Pumps use more power with less restriction? headscratch.gif
Would anyone mind linking me to a small res that would work with the 35X pump? Would a single pump suffice for a dual-loop system or should I be looking at the dual-pump combos like those from EK and XSPC?

Here's a review of small DDC reservoirs : http://www.dexgo.com/index.php?site=artikel/view.php&id=325&rubrik=Hardware&seite=1 .I'd recommend using this since you loose warranty of your pump with those other options : http://www.swiftech.com/mcp35xreservoir.aspx
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Another vote for the MCP35X. At around 2700rpm it is rather quiet.
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Well one pump work for moving water through two radiators, and is the 35X the quietest of the small pumps?
Edited by BBEG - 12/11/11 at 2:53pm
    
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post #8 of 11
as your cooling cpu+gpu with 2 240 rads your better off doing a single loop to get the most out of the rads.
yes the 35x will have no problem with 2 rads and 2 blocks
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So one pump is fine and I should use a single loop. Cool.

What pump and res should I get that would fit in the available space of 280mm x 135mm x 160mm? I'm getting the impression that the pump/res combos would probably be best. XSPC (dual bay res), Danger Den (monsoon premium), Bitspower (mini tank plus), and EK (X-Res 100) all make what look like worthwhile options. If these can all adequately fit in the allowed space, then my options remain open between D5 and DDC pumps.
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well if you have 2 drive bays spare you could get a bayres that takes the pump
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