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Please understand that these are opinions of my time with beta versions and may or may not represent the final product.

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Originally Posted by Vikhr View Post

Some questions for the testers when they're available:
1. Does the Pixart sensor have any acceleration? Yes and no. It hits positive acceleration once it approaches the malfunction rate.
2. Does the sensor have any prediction or jitter? Prediction? Yes if you would like to call it that. It's lower than most early Avago based gaming sensors, but if you absolutely hate linear correction, you may get annoyed.
3. The spec list for the Kana and Kinzu state different tracking speeds, is this a typo or do they track differently? They have different variations of the same sensor. Kana was upgraded in terms of performance.
4. What kind of perfect control speeds were you getting with the Kinzu and Kana? Close to spec. 70~ and 135~ IPS. I wouldn't recommend the Kinzu v2 if you use a low sensitivity and swipe with your full arm.
5. As someone that loves the WMO but is getting frustrated with the low perfect control speed, would you use the Kinzu V2 over one? Yes and No. WMO has a higher max malfunction rate. Perfect control is slightly higher than the early intellimice bumped over 200hz.
6. I recently tried a IMO 1.1 and had problems with my ring finger hitting the right side button, do you experience the same problem with the Kana and/or can you turn off the side buttons? If you palm, you may accidentally hit mouse 5. Didn't experience any trouble clawing. Shape and size is almost identical to the WMO. Only thing "1.1" is the side buttons on each side.
7. What are your general opinions of each mouse and would you recommend them to avid WMO/1.1 fans? External build of the Kinzu v2 is like the original, but glossy. I didn't really care for the Kana's build, but I honestly don't have final samples to determine that. Internals aren't any thing special, but that's my opinion.
8. Is the Kinzu V2 Pro worth getting over the normal V2? Its up to you. Better mouse feet and Omron switches. My beta model used omron d2fc-f-7n on every switch, but that isn't likely on retail. The TTC 159 series is actually rated for 10m clicks according to their website.
9. How is the scroll wheel on both mice? What would you compare them to? Early beta samples used the same TTC encoder found in Kinzu v1. 2nd Kana sample was unmarked and felt slightly looser than the first.
10. How much force is required to use the middle mouse button, I use middle mouse on my WMO for PTT. Ehh. Medium-Heavy~. Wheel is the smallest on the Kinzu. Requires more pressure. Kana's is a little larger, less pressure.
11. Is it still possible to make Kinzuadders with the Kinzu V2? Still has a dual PCB main-daughter design, but I'm unsure if that will change with final retail models. the shell is also slightly modified for the newer PCB.


ATTN. I've been busy with School as I have finals this week. If I don't respond within a few hours I'm likely in class.

Edited by Skylit - 12/15/11 at 2:32pm
post #122 of 1402
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What is the perfect controll speed in m/s? And when does it start malfuntioning in m/s?
post #123 of 1402
Would I be all right with the Kinzu v2 @ 30cm/360?.......intellimouse 3.0 @ 500hz was just about ok....there was neg but I could deal with it. Thanks for taking the time Skylit
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Originally Posted by Sencha View Post

Would I be all right with the Kinzu v2 @ 30cm/360?.......intellimouse 3.0 @ 500hz was just about ok....there was neg but I could deal with it. Thanks for taking the time Skylit

You may or may not have trouble. With large swipes, I could hit malfunction rate with similar settings.
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Originally Posted by vocroth View Post

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What is the perfect controll speed in m/s? And when does it start malfuntioning in m/s?

A little after or around 1.8m/s and around 3.5m/s for the Kana Surface dependent. Malfunction curve seems immediate.
post #125 of 1402
So the Kana does have path correction, too? -__-
post #126 of 1402
What a shame.
post #127 of 1402
Thank you very much for answering my questions. I may take a look at the Kana, honestly the amount of angle snapping on my old G5 didn't really bother me so I think I would be fine with what the Pixart sensor has, it's just a bit disappointing to hear that the Kinzu isn't up to snuff in terms of tracking speed.
post #128 of 1402
The kinzu and the Kana are using the the same pixart Sensor as it is in the Roccat Kova+ right?

Well no wonder why they would suck.
post #129 of 1402
What's the surface (top curve) length measure from back to the start of the scrollwheel?
Edited by fasti - 12/15/11 at 3:33pm
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post #130 of 1402
based off skylits info i think the zowie am is the way to go. If you can find one without grinding buttons.
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