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post #31 of 196
This was planned and announced even before Sandy-Bridge E was launched.

http://www.techpowerup.com/152978/Sandy-Bridge-E-VT-d-Broken-In-C1-Stepping-Fixed-In-C2-Stepping-Shortly-After-Launch.html
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How can you identify a stepping? Do I need to install the chip and run cpu-z, for example, or can I read it anywhere on the retail box?
    
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And at $400-1000 for a CPU, they better be replacing all of them with a C2 chip upon request. I'd probably crank up the juice and see how quickly I could kill a CPU otherwise. Personally.



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I'm not sure if you can RMA a working chip headscratch.gif

You can, people RMA working chips simply because they do not overclock well and get away with it.
 
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dont really care for VT, question is though will these have other advantages too like maybe OC better?
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Product Change Notification 111178 – 00

Description of Change to the Customer:

Due to limited supply, Intel is initiating a rapid C-1 to C-2 stepping conversion for the Intel® Core™ i7-3960X Processor Extreme Edition and the i7-3930K Processors. As part of this transition the following changes apply:

• New S-spec and MM numbers for the converting products
• VT-d erratum removed for C-2 step. Refer to Processor Sighting# 3876388 in Sandy Bridge-EN/EP/EX Processor Sightings Report – NDA (#452856).

Source: http://qdms.intel.com/Portal/SearchPCNDataBase.aspx


So it seems the only change is the VT-d support.
Edited by Midian - 12/12/11 at 3:15pm
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I'm not sure if you can RMA a working chip headscratch.gif

You can, people RMA working chips simply because they do not overclock well and get away with it.

That people do it for the lulz doesn't mean you can/have to morally do it. It's not Intel's fault if a chip doesn't overclock well headscratch.gif


@Midian: Good to know!

Maybe the better overclockability comes implied on the product, as it is likely that the manu'ing process has improved since they launched C1
   
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I love you guys and your source digging smile.gif

I was in contact with intel 1 week ago, asking why VT-d was not working.
The Intel rep I spoke with my email flat out denied the "allagations" on techpowerup.

Thanks to this thread I have now confronted them again, using their own PDF as source: http://qdms.intel.com/dm/d.aspx/F051E059-17FA-4B21-92E7-025550FBF529/PCN111178-00.pdf

Should be interesting to see how he will try to deny that source smile.gif

I'm going to RMA the chip no matter what the rep responds.

And yeah, it's not becouse i NEED VT-d, but I do have a geek in me. And i've wanted to play with VT-d for quite some time. And when i dish out for a complete new architure at this price, I do expect the features to actually work. Even if its only to play with..
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I love you guys and your source digging smile.gif
I was in contact with intel 1 week ago, asking why VT-d was not working.
The Intel rep I spoke with my email flat out denied the "allagations" on techpowerup.
Thanks to this thread I have now confronted them again, using their own PDF as source: http://qdms.intel.com/dm/d.aspx/F051E059-17FA-4B21-92E7-025550FBF529/PCN111178-00.pdf
Should be interesting to see how he will try to deny that source smile.gif
I'm going to RMA the chip no matter what the rep responds.
And yeah, it's not becouse i NEED VT-d, but I do have a geek in me. And i've wanted to play with VT-d for quite some time. And when i dish out for a complete new architure at this price, I do expect the features to actually work. Even if its only to play with..

Agreed 100%.
If I pay for it, I want nothing missing from my product. Heck, and if I want to sell it later on for ivi-E and a potential buyer needs it huh? what then? He'll buy from another person who paid the same as I did, but got a better stepping. No-no, thanks.
    
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I'm not sure if you can RMA a working chip headscratch.gif

A lot of people will never use VT-d. Those people will do fine with the C1. Anyone who needs it will be able to get a replacement from Intel, I guarantee you.
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