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It is about this one: HPPavilion g7-1205sd, €379 in Holland.

First of all, I know it is not going to run Battlefield 3, but we would like to buy an additional laptop mainly for internet and perhaps some older games as Medieval 2, C&C3 and maybe MW3 on lowest settings, to play survival mode with friends, and some 4 GB .mkv files playback. Well, the point of the laptop is that is uses fusion crap, of which I do not know anything. A fusion between the processor and graphics card. It has the following specs:

AMD E2-3000M 1,8 Ghz Turbomodus 2,4 Ghz
AMD Radeon HD 6380G

First of all, does a turbomodus of 2,4 Ghz mean it can just run on 2,4 Ghz if it is needed?
So, I searched the processor and graphics card up at both both http://www.cpubenchmark.net/ and http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/ and the processor got 1857 points and the graphics card 337 points. Our previous laptop, which is unfortunately stolen by burglars, had a Turion x2 TL-62 2,1 ghz (1110 points) and a 8600M GS (211 points). This previous laptop could run MW2, not MW3, quite nicely on medium at an acceptable resolution. So, this it mean this is like 1.5 times stronger? And how do you think it will run MW3? And if it is so good, why is it so cheap, it is a 17" notebook (normally you get a 15" dual core 1,6 Ghz for that price)! Thnx for advice!
Edited by jessonei - 12/12/11 at 8:34am
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It's so cheap because the E2-3000 is halfway between a netbook/ "notbook" CPU like the E-350, and an A4-3300M. You'd be better with an A4 or A6 laptop, and I've seen some in the $400 USD range (which would be 400 euros I suppose). But, I'd say that is a good deal. You might be able to find a 15" with better performance for the same price though.

Also note, if your previous laptop had lower than 1600x900 resolution(I'm assuming the 17" HP g7 has that resolution), you won't get 50% more graphics performance. Realistically maybe 20% if your old laptop was like 1366x768.
 
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But if the processor is between a netbook and notebook one, why does it have so many points? $400 is less than €300, but laptops are much prizier here than in the USA for instance. The HP has 1600x900 indeed and the previous one had 1360x768. But I can turn down the resolution if necessary, that is no problem. What about the graphics card?
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I searched up and that E2-3000 is much closer to the A4-3300M (2135) than the E-350 (726). Is this way of comparing good, using these scores?
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I searched up and that E2-3000 is much closer to the A4-3300M (2135) than the E-350 (726). Is this way of comparing good, using these scores?

First, I find those videocard benchmarks peculiar. i7-2670QM's HD 3000 graphics being ranked within 10% of Nvidia 460M is a HUGE giveaway. They're just extremely inconsistent, take a look yourself and ask if it makes any sense. I'm linking a better benchmark list below, but even it is flawed in places.

The best way to compare, is compare the Stream Processors and core clock. I haven't seen any gaming benchmarks for E2-3000 and I'm not buying those synthetics that place it within 15% of the A4's GPU. E2-3000 has 160 SP's, A4-3300M has 240 SPs. Now, that's a 50% gain. A6-3400M has 320, and A8 has 400 I believe. So E2-3000 is at the very bottom of standard-voltage AMD APUs. Consider that Intel HD 3000 is only 30% slower than A6-3400M, maybe 10% slower than a A4-3300M and you really might even be better with an i3 laptop.

I suppose a more fair comparison would be E-450 on the low-end. Still, my main point is that it's a decent amount slower than A4. The E2-3000M *should* suffice, but I wouldn't get it unless you'd save $50+ over an i3 or A4/A6 model. As for exact performance numbers, you'll have a hard time finding someone here with an E2, or even an A4. I would look here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html . Look at gaming benchmarks for GPUs in the ~200-215 ranking, if it can get run decently with any of them, the 6380G might be fine. 30FPS on low isn't a great target to shoot for IMO.
 
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Thnx for your extensive replay. When I take a similar card on notebookcheck like the Ati 5470M the results seem OK to me for my needs. Than the processer remains. I see your point, it is not gonna be great for sure. But do you think that it will sure be better than the processor of the previous one (AMD Turion x2 TL-62 2,1 Ggz)? That processor was actually quite fine. Thanks in advance.
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Thnx for your extensive replay. When I take a similar card on notebookcheck like the Ati 5470M the results seem OK to me for my needs. Than the processer remains. I see your point, it is not gonna be great for sure. But do you think that it will sure be better than the processor of the previous one (AMD Turion x2 TL-62 2,1 Ggz)? That processor was actually quite fine. Thanks in advance.

CPU will definitely be faster than Turion X2. The E2's CPU performance is closer to an A4 than I thought. http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html That's a CPU benchmark list - again not completely accurate, it's probably good within +/- 5%. Overall it should be a decent gain - 20% on CPU. I'm not very convinced the 6380G is much faster than the 8600M GS though.
 
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CPU will definitely be faster than Turion X2. The E2's CPU performance is closer to an A4 than I thought. http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html That's a CPU benchmark list - again not completely accurate, it's probably good within +/- 5%. Overall it should be a decent gain - 20% on CPU. I'm not very convinced the 6380G is much faster than the 8600M GS though.

Once again thnx for your efforts. The new link you have sent does have the E2-3000 in the list, but it is without a score, so, on what do you base it will be much faster? And if the 6380G is not faster, but at least not worse, than it is OK. I found the 8600m GS very reasonable.
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