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So, after much trial and tribulation, I have decided to go through with building my first WC rig. My company is having massive layoffs and I was going to shelve the project in case I don't have a job soon, but since I had already ordered a bunch of the parts and my company is taking away my second computer that I use at my home office (costs savings), I figured I might as well do it since I'll need something very powerful anyway for grad school and some work I'm doing requiring intensive statistical models and simulations.

At any rate, I have this awesome custom Cyberdruid reservoir, which looks great and makes a decent amount of noise (part of the design), but since I will now be using this as my primary work, school, and personal computer, I need it to be quiet when I'm on conference calls, which is about 5 hours a day, plus a 12 - 20 hour call once per month on average. I have 3 lines all feeding into a polycomm conference station that picks up sound incredibly well and I like to hide the fact that Im working from home when talking to clients. Additionally, at times I like to listen to music and I have a pretty nice sound setup, so it would be nice to turn down the res noise then too. The rest of the time, I want to be able to watch and hear that res, as I find the sound relaxing, especially while reading, studying, or just going about my day-to-day work.

The idea was to have a tiny res somewhere out of site and a ball valve like this , or some other type of hardware that could switch water flow between the reservoirs. I'll also want a fill port that I'll be attaching to a 120mm fan hole cover. Right now this will be a single loop, but I'd eventually like to add a loop for the GPU as well. I just think that this setup, with two loops is a bit much to start with for someone who has never WCed before. Plus, it seems like GPU blocks are expensive and while I plan on OC my cpu, I think I'll leave the GPU stock, at least for now.

I really have no particular requirements for the design, other than the res will sit on one side of a mountain mods U2UFO case, while the components are on the other side, as this is the only way the reservoir will fit in the case.

I'm still making up my mind with parts, but so far this is what I have on hand, or have already ordered
  • 17-3930K
  • ASRock Extreme9 x79 mobo
  • CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (8 x 4GB) DDR3 1600
  • OCZ Z 1000W 80+ Gold 24PIN ATX 83A 12V Modular PSU
  • Swiftech MCP655-12v Water Pump
  • EK-D5 X-TOP rev.2 white (pump top)
  • Cyberdruid custom 8" x 15" Res

What I have not ordered yet, or am undecided on
  • GPU - 6950 HD Radeon
  • Black Ice Stealth GT 360 RAD
  • CPU block (no idea what to get for the lga 2011 chip)
  • Mountain Mods Crystal Ship U2-UFO case
  • PrimoChill PrimoFlex PRO LRT Tubing 7/16" ID 5/8" OD - White
  • Fittings - no decision
  • ball valve to manually switch between reservoirs
  • SSD / HDD - Primary drive 120gb sata 3 ssd, data storage drives 6 - 8 TB sata 2 or 3 5900 or 7200 rpm

If I havent listed parts above, I may have forgotten that I needed them. Let me know if something is missing.

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Take a look at the single wide Caselabs ST10, its wondrous. And it all started here on OCN.
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Take a look at the single wide Caselabs ST10, its wondrous. And it all started here on OCN.

They are outside my budget. Besides, I had the reservoir designed specifically for the U2UFO case, so i know everything will fit. I need help with the WC loop design, but Im ok with the case I've decided on.

I'll be looking to start the build in the next 10 days, so the less non essential changes, the better.
    
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Very interesting idea. Once you get the loop up and running (and free of air bubbles) the reservoir really doesn't serve any functional purpose. You could use valves to simply bypass the res when you need you computer to be silent instead of routing it to a different reservoir.
As far as blocks of 2011 CPUs I haven't seen any comparison tests yet. If the block you like doesn't have a 2011 mounting kit out you can always just get some hardware from a local hardware store to mount your block. You just need M4 screws.
 
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everything looks good so far... i would personaly use a ball joint y splitter... koolance use to make some nice ones (idk if they do anymore)... and lets get some pics of this res smile.gif

EDIT: i love the EK HF (i only use full copper blocks no matter who they are from) and i believe they have 2011 mounting hardware included now smile.gif
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Very interesting idea. Once you get the loop up and running (and free of air bubbles) the reservoir really doesn't serve any functional purpose. You could use valves to simply bypass the res when you need you computer to be silent instead of routing it to a different reservoir.
As far as blocks of 2011 CPUs I haven't seen any comparison tests yet. If the block you like doesn't have a 2011 mounting kit out you can always just get some hardware from a local hardware store to mount your block. You just need M4 screws.

The reason I wanted a reservoir at all times, is because I have a wood stove in my office and water tends to evaporate quickly. I could definitely see myself forgetting that I had switched the ball joint and leaving the office for the night while the wood stove was going strong and screwing something up. It only gets to about 80 degrees max in that office at its hottest, but its so dry from the wood stove that water seems to evaporate very quickly.
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everything looks good so far... i would personaly use a ball joint y splitter... koolance use to make some nice ones (idk if they do anymore)... and lets get some pics of this res smile.gif
EDIT: i love the EK HF (i only use full copper blocks no matter who they are from) and i believe they have 2011 mounting hardware included now smile.gif

A ball joint y splitter would work very well for this. I hadnt seen one, but I'll keep looking. I wish I could find a small electric actuator that does this automatically, or maybe via remote control, but I doubt I'd have the budget for that even if I could find one.


Does anyone know how much cooler I could expect to keep a stock clocked GPU (HD 6950 type) on WC rather than the fans? If I decided to WC the GPU, are there models that come without fans for WCing? If it wouldnt be much more expensive to buy the waterblock for a fanless gpu, rather than paying for the model with the fans, it may make sense to go that route...although I do have a habit of taking on more than I can chew...
    
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The reason I wanted a reservoir at all times, is because I have a wood stove in my office and water tends to evaporate quickly. I could definitely see myself forgetting that I had switched the ball joint and leaving the office for the night while the wood stove was going strong and screwing something up. It only gets to about 80 degrees max in that office at its hottest, but its so dry from the wood stove that water seems to evaporate very quickly.

with a close loop you wont get evaporation smile.gif
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A ball joint y splitter would work very well for this. I hadnt seen one, but I'll keep looking. I wish I could find a small electric actuator that does this automatically, or maybe via remote control, but I doubt I'd have the budget for that even if I could find one.

ill see if i can find one for you smile.gif
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Does anyone know how much cooler I could expect to keep a stock clocked GPU (HD 6950 type) on WC rather than the fans? If I decided to WC the GPU, are there models that come without fans for WCing? If it wouldnt be much more expensive to buy the waterblock for a fanless gpu, rather than paying for the model with the fans, it may make sense to go that route...although I do have a habit of taking on more than I can chew...

im confused by this part frown.gif... they make certain blocks that come with water cooling blocks installed, but it would be around the same price and after market blocks work better... i would get a reference card and a seperate block if it were me... blocks realy arnt too hard to put on blocks... just look up some tutorials here smile.gif (hope that answers your question tongue.gif)

EDIT:

couldn't find the one i was talking about, but you could use a combo of tthses to achieve the same goal ( just make sure one is always one)

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_346_393_623&products_id=32809

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_346_393_623&products_id=24908
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with a close loop you wont get evaporation smile.gif
ill see if i can find one for you smile.gif
im confused by this part frown.gif... they make certain blocks that come with water cooling blocks installed, but it would be around the same price and after market blocks work better... i would get a reference card and a seperate block if it were me... blocks realy arnt too hard to put on blocks... just look up some tutorials here smile.gif (hope that answers your question tongue.gif)

Thanks for the links. I meant that I was having trouble finding a GPU that didnt have fans already incorporated into the design. I wasnt sure how a waterblock would cool if there werent a solid heat conductive flat surface for it too be attached too. If they do make GPUs like this, without fans and for watercooling, are they generally more, or less expensive than the traditional aircooled models. Since Im not OCing the GPU right now, I didnt think WC was necessary, but if it wouldnt cost me much more to do so, I may consider it.
    
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Thanks for the links. I meant that I was having trouble finding a GPU that didnt have fans already incorporated into the design. I wasnt sure how a waterblock would cool if there werent a solid heat conductive flat surface for it too be attached too. If they do make GPUs like this, without fans and for watercooling, are they generally more, or less expensive than the traditional aircooled models. Since Im not OCing the GPU right now, I didnt think WC was necessary, but if it wouldnt cost me much more to do so, I may consider it.

Depending what GPU you have or will buy and what you use it for may vary. Stock GPU fan are very noisy and hot when stressing the card. (stock setting, NO OC yet) so if you were to oc the gpu it will be even hotter. I recommend to get the waterblock from getgo, but if you dont have the coin at the moment, see how well stock fan will serve you.
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WD black. 512gb crucial m4 ssd EKWB Windows 7 ultimate 
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ASUS PB278Q logitech g15 corsair ax1200 Caselabs STH10 
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logitech g500s xtrac audioengine a5+ 
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wd 2tb black 128gb crucial m4 ssd ek waterblocks windows 7 ultimate 
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Depending what GPU you have or will buy and what you use it for may vary. Stock GPU fan are very noisy and hot when stressing the card. (stock setting, NO OC yet) so if you were to oc the gpu it will be even hotter. I recommend to get the waterblock from getgo, but if you dont have the coin at the moment, see how well stock fan will serve you.

Thanks for the info. I'll look into how much more it will cost to WC the gpu. It will be a Radeon HD 6950 2gb version, probably from XFX
    
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Intel Core i7 3930K X79 Extreme9 MSI Frozr II Radeon HD 6950 2GB 32GB (4GB x 8) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 PC31... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
2 x Corsair Force GT SATA 3 120GB 6 x Western Digital WD20EARX 2TB SATA III LG BD Burner WH12LS38 2 x Swiftech MCP655 Variable 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XSPC Raystorm CPU Block XSPC RX360 Rev 2 Xigmatek CLF-F1255 x 14 T-Balancer BigNG, flow meter, 3 x H20 Temp, & 4... 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
2 x Custom Danger Den RAD Reservoirs Primochill Pro LRT tubing - White Windows 7 Pro x64 Sharp Aquos Quattron LC-40LE820UN 40" 
MonitorMonitorMonitorKeyboard
ViewSonic LED 24" LG 32LF11 32" HP L1950 19" Logitech Wireless K800 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
OCZ Z Series 1000W Modular 80+ Gold Danger Den Double Wide 21 Series Nightmare SR2 Logitech Wireless K400 Onkyo TX-NR709 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
JBL L-890 Front L/R JBL LC2 Center JBL L-820 Side & Rear L/R (7.1 setup) Polk PS505 Sub 
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Emotiva XPA-3 Power Amp 
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