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imagine how long it would take to initialize, clean format/defrag this.... aaskull.gif

or run a disk error check......now that would be painfull.
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Umm, how have 3TB drives been unreliable? You want reliability? Sure cough up more money for their Ultrastar Enterprise class. People expect things to last forever for the chump change they spend these days. rolleyes.gif

"People" seem to forget that each additional platter used in a hard drive puts an exponential amount of stress on the spindle. As such, 4 platter drives always have a significantly higher failure rate than others. With 1TB platters, it means that 3TB drives will now be made using 3 platters instead of 4, making them A LOT more reliable. If you're using a 4 platter drive for anything important I sure hope you have a good backup.

Unless there's some sort of new magic spindle motor that runs on pixie dust that I don't know about.

Then all 3TB enterprise Ultrastar drives are destined to fail?
 
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Yeah wait 5 yearsand find out how long they will last. rolleyes.gif
Someone stuck in the past? Deathstar issue was eons ago and has long been resolved, it's like saying 2011 Ford Explorers are unreliable because of the tire issue with Firestone years ago. kookoo.gif

No, that's not what I meant. Since these are the first 4TB hard drives I would like to make sure they are reliable before I start putting important data on it, nothing about it being a Hitachi drive. If I don't hear about people having issues with them, then I'll get one, but if they fail within a few months and many people are having issues, then I won't.

I know that those issues were solves several years ago, the Deathstar thing just popped into my head when I saw this.
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Someone stuck in the past? Deathstar issue was eons ago and has long been resolved, it's like saying 2011 Ford Explorers are unreliable because of the tire issue with Firestone years ago. kookoo.gif

Wow, that seemed like just the other day.,.. I had two Explorers, then.
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Seagates had the STAC4000100 (external 4tb) since August. I grabbed one in November for 199.99.
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Umm, how have 3TB drives been unreliable? You want reliability? Sure cough up more money for their Ultrastar Enterprise class. People expect things to last forever for the chump change they spend these days. rolleyes.gif

"People" seem to forget that each additional platter used in a hard drive puts an exponential amount of stress on the spindle. As such, 4 platter drives always have a significantly higher failure rate than others. With 1TB platters, it means that 3TB drives will now be made using 3 platters instead of 4, making them A LOT more reliable. If you're using a 4 platter drive for anything important I sure hope you have a good backup.

Unless there's some sort of new magic spindle motor that runs on pixie dust that I don't know about.

Then all 3TB enterprise Ultrastar drives are destined to fail?

Any HDD is destined to fail, technically. But yes, they will have a shorter lifespan than 3TB Ultrastar drives with 3 platters rather than 4 or 5.
    
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Must... have... 10 of these ASAP!

Need to upgrade 10 (1TBs) of my 20 drives in my 2xRAIDZ2 ZFS file server.
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Then all 3TB enterprise Ultrastar drives are destined to fail?

All hard drives are destined to fail; it's just a matter of when.
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Yep that's the first thing I searched also before I posted... headscratch.gif
But I finally found the source that explained a little about its production. Answer is that they aren't even in massive production yet since the flood problem (unannounced, not 1TB platters, no info). In other words...bad timing to disclose any information about it with the fluctuated prices. All the drives on the market seem to be the drives under testing...which are only being sold by third party sellers (Ebay/Amazon Members) as opposed to the main retailers. I knew the product model number was fishy...it's not even official (ST4000DX000 as opposed to an official model number like ST33000651AS that discloses real statistics).
I'm sure the official Seagate 4TB XT would cost around ~$500 with the fluctuation right now...which isn't even remotely attractive. I remember buying an old 1TB external when they were newly released for ~$400 (I was desperate). That's the farthest I'll push up to for a single HDD...otherwise I'll be looking into a SSD around that price range.

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0373115 just crack the case open and u got ur self a sata3 4tb internal for $300
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http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0373115 just crack the case open and u got ur self a sata3 4tb internal for $300

5,900RPM...no thanks. Aren't warranties voided when you remove/disassemble external hard drives?
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