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If you actually buy a decent amount of games (say 5 retail boxed every year or so), in two years you've made up the cost of a high end gaming machine (in spain, PC games are 46€; PS3, 75€). Besides you'll use it for more things than just gaming, obviously.

Computers are not solely for gaming. Consoles are. There's the difference.
   
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It won't last 3 years from today. So nice try to you. Pc gamers are constantly having a go at this debate but going by 2 different thoughts that are on entirely different edges of the spectrum. If you want a pc that will keep blasting consoles away you will need a more expensive setup and will need to keep upgrading it. If you want a pc closer to console prices ( cause you think pc gaming isn't expensive) then you will have an old hardware pc that will not run on ultra settings now and defenitely not in 3 years time.

 

Except you don't need the PC to run at Ultra maxxed out settings to get a better experience than current consoles.

 

Current generation it will outlast any current generation console and even not at Ultra will still look better than console games of this generation.

 

Even when the next generation hits, which is at least a year or two away, it will still be able to play games of the next generation, albeit at a lower resolution/settings.

 

So it will still last three years. To me lasting is being adequately capable for a long time, not running everything at max settings for a long time.

 

Sorry, but if a 8800 can last what? 6-7 years? STarting in one generation and living through another, I'm sure a 550ti can aswell. As I said, it runs current console games at higher resolutions, and better. It is currently better than what current consoles offer. So you really think it's going to struggle that badly next generation?

 

I guess we'll not know for quite a while now will we. That, currently, is jut speculation and theory. We cannot put it into practice until new consoles arrive.

 

Upgrading, for the most part, is a choice not a neccessity. There will, at some point, come a time when an upgrade will be needed, but the assumption that it has to be every few years on a PC isn't really true. Maybe if you want to play on Ultra in everything, but not if you just want to play everything. People can play Skyrim on a 8800 after all.


Edited by Lifeshield - 12/13/11 at 10:04am
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There was nothing missing I was saying that the price of a television/monitor should be taken out of the equation completely learn to read the post.
I pointed out the controller pricing because for a decent mouse you can spend as little as 20 dollars and any keyboard will do as long as it lasts.
I have never once had a computer FAIL on me, after all my years no part has failed, short of fans, which last a good while so no reparation cost to computers. Where as the Xbox will RROD just sitting there
I have an Acer computer that I spent 80$ on to make into a gaming computer from back in 05-06 and it still runs current gen games including the new Alice, which still arguably runs games better than console. at higher settings.
Now I can spend another 50 and run those same games at high with my old 8800gt. which can be had for about 40-50 dollars now days.
Like everyone has been saying you can go with the top of the line enthusiast equipment or the budget equipment that does just fine and still outperforms consoles...
You also fail to realize that money can be MADE from buying a computer...
Yes consoles are great for the normal person who doesn't know crap about computers... those are the same people that buy macs because they think they are the best computers.

Like I said, show me a rig at the time of the PS3 launch that will still outperform the PS3 to this day and include a blu-ray drive. Also, don't assume you can travel forward in time and buy 8800 gtx's for $50 when they cost $500+ at launch. Also, my PS3 I got at launch is still working just fine, so you can throw out the BS repairs argument. All electronics have a chance to fail.

Until you can do that, you have no ground to stand on.

All in all in the end: fine, a BRAND new PC (if everyone wants to take the "oh of course if you buy used" argument) with the hardware needed to max out the top game of the current age costs maybe $500 more than a newly released console, no doubt about it. BUT, that is only thanks to the console being sold at a loss. Regarding the Blu-Ray bit: That would obviously completely throw the balance in PS3's favor, as the PS3's most expensive parts were the Blu-Ray components and the PS3 was sold at way below the cost of producing them, I think $100 below cost. Sony finally broke even on the PS3's cost in June 2010, a little over 3 years after its release. The point is in the LONG term, a gaming PC will likely cover the price difference solely in resale value and low upgrade costs as a result of that resale value. You shouldn't need a new monitor, sound card, speakers, nor any of the other expensive equipment if you got decent hardware the first time around. You should end up spending about $300 out of pocket per big upgrade (main components: motherboard, CPU, RAM, GPU) after selling your current hardware, versus spending $300-$400 on the newly released console where you'd be lucky to get $100 for your old console, and on top of that again start spending $60 for all the new games.

In addition, the higher cost wouldn't really even make me hesitate about choosing PC over any console anyways. I typically finance large purchases through Newegg anyways. I can grab a list of parts totaling $1,500 and pay $125 a month for 12 months with 0 interest. That's really not that big of a hit to me, my car insurance alone is nearly double that and my T-Mobile bill is only dollars below that for 2 lines. Totally worth it.
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 12/13/11 at 10:08am
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It sounds like a troll article. Having a PC is way better than anything, There are millions thing you can do on computer vs consoles.

 

A 30"-40" HDTV will cost you $1500 min. Some goes up to $3000 at 55"+. Alone that is expensive not counting Receiver, mounts, stand, rack and etc.

 

 

p.s. I can't see the website (blocked at work) but I'm just reading directly from the quote.

 
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Sorry, but if a 8800 can last what? 6-7 years? STarting in one generation and living through another, I'm sure a 550ti can aswell. As I said, it runs current console games at higher resolutions, and better. It is currently better than what current consoles offer. So you really think it's going to struggle that badly next generation?

I guess we'll not know for quite a while now will we. That, currently, is jut speculation and theory. We cannot put it into practice until new consoles arrive.

Upgrading, for the most part, is a choice not a neccessity. There will, at some point, come a time when an upgrade will be needed, but the assumption that it has to be every few years on a PC isn't really true. Maybe if you want to play on Ultra in everything, but not if you just want to play everything. People can play Skyrim on a 8800 after all.

This is true. I could play BF3 just fine on my 9600gt that I bought back in February 2008. I might not have been to my native resolution or even medium settings but it still looked miles better than the Xbox 360 and the PS3 versions it even ran a good 40 FPS AVG.
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It sounds like a troll article.



It would be trolling more on consoles than PC's, despite horrible builds that OCN just can't seem to get over.

 

 

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Computers are not solely for gaming. Consoles are. There's the difference.


Not keeping up with the enemy's movements I see. It seems the majority of PC gamers are blind to the fact that Consoles have evolved beyond just a means to play a game. Many people (adults), such as myself, use them as living room media hubs (with some medium gaming). I don't get why us PC gamers are so thick headed in understanding the appeal of a console over a PC.

Owning a console can be likened to my having a weekend/track car (PC) and my daily driver/grocery getter (console), and them both doing their jobs equally well for their intended purpose. It does not matter that my track car can also be driven to work or to the store (apps for watching movies/listening to music, etc.) because it won't be as easy an experience as just hopping in the beater. My friends will also appreciate being able to join me in having their own seats when we hang out (beer night,etc).
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PC gaming is no more expensive then console gaming, If anything its cheaper for games especially when you consider Steam deals. What costs is the enthusiast side of things. You don't need Tri SLI 590s to play Battlefield 3, you do it because you want to and its a hobby.

Best truth ever. Well said
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Just gonna say, I am in love with PC gaming and I love it, I think it is millions of times better than console gaming an I'm glad I made the jump.

While PC gaming can equal itself out over time, you have to think about the people who do not have the information, know how or guts to actually buy all these pieces of hardware and plug them in, even though it is bloody simple somebody that is 10-15 or parents with little no know knowledge about computers can't build own, let alone comprehend building it.

Then it gets to the point when you have to buy a factory gaming PC (Dell's overpriced POS etc.) or get a cheap console. Most of the time the cheap console will smash the overpriced POS computer from your local computer store that cost you $500-1000 extra.

Though if you can build your own PC, it is a hella lot cheaper in the longrun.
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While PC gaming can equal itself out over time, you have to think about the people who do not have the information, know how or guts to actually buy all these pieces of hardware and plug them in, even though it is bloody simple somebody that is 10-15 or parents with little no know knowledge about computers can't build own, let alone comprehend building it.

Then it gets to the point when you have to buy a factory gaming PC (Dell's overpriced POS etc.) or get a cheap console. Most of the time the cheap console will smash the overpriced POS computer from your local computer store that cost you $500-1000 extra.



It's this mentality that gives PC gaming a bad image overall in the price/performance aspect, well pointed out.

 

Which is why we need the OCN Education Program. Time to educate those people! biggrin.gif

 

 

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