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Another argument for costs of PC gaming: The IGP in my 890GX was able to match my 360 in terms of graphics and performance on quite a few games (GoW1, FO:NV, Oblivion and a handful of others) so a Llano with it's IGP would be more than enough.

Again, comparing hardware from a time WELL AFTER CONSOLES LAUNCHED.

Unless you make up a lot of money from buying games, then you guys are just flat out wrong, PC gaming is more expensive. To get equivalent PC hardware and performance to what's in a PS3 you would've needed to spend at least $1,000 at launch.

If we go with the conservative figure of only $1,000, and lets assume you can save $10 per game, you'd need to buy at least 40 NEW games to recover that initial cost. For someone like me who buys 3-4 new games a year, I would never make up the difference.

Again, I'd say that a $1000 PC from 2006 that would compete with the PS3 is VERY CONSERVATIVE, as Blu Ray drives alone were $500 msrp at launch, the 7800GTX was $450 at launch......do I even need to keep going?

Just get over it.....PC GAMING IS NOT CHEAPER THAN CONSOLE GAMING

At least $1000 at launch? Sure. Considering the PS3 was $1000 at launch, here.

Core 2 Duo E6300 or E6600, overclock it. Would only be straining now. Upgrade GPU from 7950GT or similar to a HD4850 would still game at a higher quality than consoles for the entire time. And why go for a 7800GTX? It was discontinued in March, the PS3 in November (Both 2006) , you'd at least go for a 7900GS...Or the 7950GT, which was out 2 months before the PS3 and cost US$300.

I made a fairly forwards compatible system for AU$1594 (Athlon64 x2 4600+, DFI LanParty AM2 nForce 590 SLI, 7950GT, 2GB RAM, 250GB Samsung SATA HDD, Zalman 460w PSU) now assuming you left that as it was for 3 years, then upgraded the GPU and CPU in 2010, you'd pay $209 for a Phenom I quad (Some people still game on slower CPUs than these..) and AU$250 for a HD4850 (Which would still run most games today) for $459 overall and AU$2053 total.

Now, with the PS3. Games cost on average ~$100, you buy 3-4 new games a year? Well, it'd be impossible to calculate the real savings but with Steam sales, waiting a month or two after release to buy (Console games do not go down as much) you'd make up that $1053 pretty fast.

And that's before any new controllers (I'd say about average 3-4 years before the battery wears out depending on usage and how much are you take of it, going from google results), accessories (If you want PSMove, that's another AU$89. PlayTV? AU$150 for a while, but now down to AU$89) and any other random stuff that crops up...TVs were much more expensive then too, not to mention Australia has no analog TV signal now, you'd need a set-top box for most TVs from 2006 if you wanted to watch TV now, whereas the AU$100 TV Tuner I got back in early 2006 worked fine with digital TV. Overall, it ends up cheaper usually. The extra $1k spent on a PC for a much higher quality experience on average is easily made up by the average AU$20-AU$40 extra console games cost, especially when you consider the PC has more versatility anyway. The PS3 browser still randomly locks up for me on javascript heavy sites such as Facebook, and BluRay was all but useless due to the lack of availability and price of the actual movies until 2009 anyway. Even now, most people only get DVDs...Even when they have a PS3.
    
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I'm not a console "fanboy" but this is the first time I've seen such blasphemy. Who said that you can only play consoles on a 32" HDTV and you can't play them on a monitor like a PC can? Every monitor (VGA or HDMI input) can be connected to a console. Second of all, who said that Xbox Live is required for console-owners? If you wanted free online-play you'd buy a PS3. Also, who said that every console user needs an upgraded hard drive when almost all console players play directly from the disc.

"Speaking of friends, we could do with some additional controllers, because playing FIFA 12 on your lonesome is a bit sad. You can get a wireless X360 controller from GAME for £22.99. We'll get three, just in case the unthinkable happens and developers actually start making split-screen games again."

Really? You need to buy three EXTRA controllers with a console? This is just B.S. when they didn't buy three extra things for the PC.

Like I said, this is in my opinion, and I still believe the PC is a better platform but this article is ridiculous.
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Blah, blah, Because You are PC, right? Unfortunately Game industries CURRENTLY think/ or believe the dedicated gaming consoles are replaced the gaming PC ALREADY without questions.
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Another argument for costs of PC gaming: The IGP in my 890GX was able to match my 360 in terms of graphics and performance on quite a few games (GoW1, FO:NV, Oblivion and a handful of others) so a Llano with it's IGP would be more than enough.

Again, comparing hardware from a time WELL AFTER CONSOLES LAUNCHED.

Unless you make up a lot of money from buying games, then you guys are just flat out wrong, PC gaming is more expensive. To get equivalent PC hardware and performance to what's in a PS3 you would've needed to spend at least $1,000 at launch.

If we go with the conservative figure of only $1,000, and lets assume you can save $10 per game, you'd need to buy at least 40 NEW games to recover that initial cost. For someone like me who buys 3-4 new games a year, I would never make up the difference.

Again, I'd say that a $1000 PC from 2006 that would compete with the PS3 is VERY CONSERVATIVE, as Blu Ray drives alone were $500 msrp at launch, the 7800GTX was $450 at launch......do I even need to keep going?

Just get over it.....PC GAMING IS NOT CHEAPER THAN CONSOLE GAMING

At least $1000 at launch? Sure. Considering the PS3 was $1000 at launch, here.

Core 2 Duo E6300 or E6600, overclock it. Would only be straining now. Upgrade GPU from 7950GT or similar to a HD4850 would still game at a higher quality than consoles for the entire time. And why go for a 7800GTX? It was discontinued in March, the PS3 in November (Both 2006) , you'd at least go for a 7900GS...Or the 7950GT, which was out 2 months before the PS3 and cost US$300.

I made a fairly forwards compatible system for AU$1594 (Athlon64 x2 4600+, DFI LanParty AM2 nForce 590 SLI, 7950GT, 2GB RAM, 250GB Samsung SATA HDD, Zalman 460w PSU) now assuming you left that as it was for 3 years, then upgraded the GPU and CPU in 2010, you'd pay $209 for a Phenom I quad (Some people still game on slower CPUs than these..) and AU$250 for a HD4850 (Which would still run most games today) for $459 overall and AU$2053 total.

Now, with the PS3. Games cost on average ~$100, you buy 3-4 new games a year? Well, it'd be impossible to calculate the real savings but with Steam sales, waiting a month or two after release to buy (Console games do not go down as much) you'd make up that $1053 pretty fast.

And that's before any new controllers (I'd say about average 3-4 years before the battery wears out depending on usage and how much are you take of it, going from google results), accessories (If you want PSMove, that's another AU$89. PlayTV? AU$150 for a while, but now down to AU$89) and any other random stuff that crops up...TVs were much more expensive then too, not to mention Australia has no analog TV signal now, you'd need a set-top box for most TVs from 2006 if you wanted to watch TV now, whereas the AU$100 TV Tuner I got back in early 2006 worked fine with digital TV. Overall, it ends up cheaper usually. The extra $1k spent on a PC for a much higher quality experience on average is easily made up by the average AU$20-AU$40 extra console games cost, especially when you consider the PC has more versatility anyway. The PS3 browser still randomly locks up for me on javascript heavy sites such as Facebook, and BluRay was all but useless due to the lack of availability and price of the actual movies until 2009 anyway. Even now, most people only get DVDs...Even when they have a PS3.



You're just grasping at straws and making subjective arguments, and you're wrong.

PS3 was $600 at launch in the US anyway.
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The biggest thing that I see is the fact that everyone who owns a console also owns a PC. Console owners bought an Xbox or PS3 for $400, and then a cheaper PC for $500 that they use for school/work/internet. That's $900 total (and you haven't bought any games) for your console and PC.

PC gamers can spend $1000 on a great PC (especially if you use a TV as a monitor to save you $200) that's capable of doing all the things you do on your cheap PC except faster. Now you can play the same games as console, except with better graphics and games running smoother.

Now tack on the $10 per game cheaper it is (we'll just ignore the Steam sales because that would just make this too unfair), and you're basically even, but now you can upgrade at your own time and aren't stuck with something that is obsolete in 5 years.


I'm not trying to say that PC gaming is cheaper. But the gap is nowhere near as big as people think it is.
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It sounds like a troll article. Having a PC is way better than anything, There are millions thing you can do on computer vs consoles.

A 30"-40" HDTV will cost you $1500 min. Some goes up to $3000 at 55"+. Alone that is expensive not counting Receiver, mounts, stand, rack and etc.


p.s. I can't see the website (blocked at work) but I'm just reading directly from the quote.

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Not sure where you got your prices but I got a 40in LCD 1080p TV almost a year ago for $399.99 from BestBuy. I also got a 56 LCD 1080p TV about 2 or 3 years ago for $1100 or so with a 4 year warranty from Amazon.com.

Now for the items you listed that is needed to game console, again...NSIS. Receiver? As in AV receiver? You don't need that to hook a console up to a TV. Stand? Sorry, but if you don't have a TV stand, you probably can't afford either a console or a PC. Not sure about racks and etc. Also a TV mounts isn't needed either to game on a console.
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PC gaming expensive??
    
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For perfect example- Dell Alienware Aurora gaming rig for $2,200
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Source from Dell site..

Ouch! Isn't PC gaming really very expensive? why need the 6 cores CPU for games?? For fact, the 6 cores CPU for a gaming rig is an overkill and complete waste of money, most of the games are so poorly coded for multithread processing that all that raw power will go waste!

So Dual-core/ Tri-cores/ or quad -cores CPU, & 4/ or 6GB of Memory RAM are good enough for games, thats it.
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The biggest thing that I see is the fact that everyone who owns a console also owns a PC. Console owners bought an Xbox or PS3 for $400, and then a cheaper PC for $500 that they use for school/work/internet. That's $900 total (and you haven't bought any games) for your console and PC.
PC gamers can spend $1000 on a great PC (especially if you use a TV as a monitor to save you $200) that's capable of doing all the things you do on your cheap PC except faster. Now you can play the same games as console, except with better graphics and games running smoother.
Now tack on the $10 per game cheaper it is (we'll just ignore the Steam sales because that would just make this too unfair), and you're basically even, but now you can upgrade at your own time and aren't stuck with something that is obsolete in 5 years.
I'm not trying to say that PC gaming is cheaper. But the gap is nowhere near as big as people think it is.

I highly doubt that standard old Desktop towers are flying off the shelf at Best Buy to Ma and Pa, or even students. A cheap laptop is the defacto internet machine for most people these days in the sense that you're speaking.
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I highly doubt that standard old Desktop towers are flying off the shelf at Best Buy to Ma and Pa, or even students. A cheap laptop is the defacto internet machine for most people these days in the sense that you're speaking.

Yep, I know a whole lot of people who don't have a desktop, and we all know how bad gaming on a laptop is.
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