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Originally Posted by xXjay247Xx View Post

So... your going to buy a £200 console, then what? play it on nothing? add the cost of TVs you bunch of idiots...



Are you going to buy a console if you don't own a TV? rolleyes.gif

 

Do you know a console will play on a standard TV out of the box? rolleyes.gif

 

Do you know you can play a console on a PC monitor via HDMI or VGA (Xbox 360 only for VGA)? rolleyes.gif

 

Do you know I didn't include the price of a monitor either because you can use a HDTV on your PC? rolleyes.gif

 

Do you know that either way, because you can use a monitor or a HDTV on both, the cost for both would be exactly the same for both platforms nullifying any point of adding the cost in the first place? rolleyes.gif

 

Did you think about this before blessing us with your insults? rolleyes.gif

 

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IGN = Trolls. And what the hell? Spend £56 on one stick of ram when you can have 2x4GB that are faster and slower for a lot less?.. And the CPU was sort of pointless.. A dual core SB cpu would be good too.

Back OT, I always though of PC gaming to cost about the same as console, assuming one buys a fair amount of games on the console. I mean PC games can be had for £15 when their console counterparts would still be £35. redface.gif



Is kind of funny. I bought 4gb of XMS3 for £21. And 8gb of Corsair Vengeance for £38. Their build is terribly thought out for a price comparison. I could add a 560ti to the one I posted for a little more and still come in at less than what they proposed.

 

 

 

 


Edited by Lifeshield - 12/13/11 at 3:42am
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Are you really going to run a game like Battlefield 3 on a X1950 on a 32" HDTV?

Also who in their right mind would buy hardware that's 6 years old to run games today? It's not a comparison of which is better via hardware specifications. It's a comparison of which costs more to upkeep "today".

Rubbish. If it works in a console then it will work for a PC. You just need like for like components. You basically built what will be the next generation xbox in your comparison. If your not actually comparing consoles to equivalent pcs then what exactly is the point. We can compare a beat up Ford Fiesta and brand new Ford Focus if you like. Both do the same job but hardly the same thing is it!?

EDIT: and before you get uppity and ask whats my point its simply this. Its not about gaming. Its about what whether your a PC enthusiast or not. You can play games for reasonable prices whatever the platform. The article is trash.
Edited by Hillskill - 12/13/11 at 4:04am
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Sorry, don't have time to read so just going to make a random thought.....

Did they compare a current PC build to today's console price or the price of the consoles when they first came out 6 years ago? I recall the PS3 costing easily $500+.

Just saying.,... wait till the next generation of console come out then I'd like to see them rewrite that article.

and you know what. I have a PS3 and 360 in my house and I'd rather spend $3000 (I don't because I don't have to) on a PC instead of playing games on my consoles. I come to find consoles boring over the last generation and now they gather dust.
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As said previously this is a stupid comparison.

The point of a pc is that it unlocks your games graphically in that I can choose how my graphics are displayed to suit my preferences and hardware. i.e. level of AA, shadow quality etc. Consoles do not allow for this at all.

If i dialed down my graphics to the level a console could put out then actually a pc wouldn't cost you much at all.

ebuyer only -
http://www.ebuyer.com/251310-zoostorm-desktop-7873-1036 - 200 quid for a pc
http://www.ebuyer.com/320045-powercolor-hd-4850-1gb-gddr5-vga-dvi-hdmi-pci-e-graphics-card-ax4850-1gbd5-hv3 - 4850 (didnt do a lot of browsing so may be better for the money but i loathe spending time on things that dont need it tongue.gif )

270 quid guys! and thats all new kit. 1TB HDD, 4gb of ram (more than enough)

And that trounces current generation consoles by a fair margin, even my original 8800gts 320MB trounced them! Ok that needs an os and mouse keyboard but XP is 30 quid on ebay and mouse and keyboard GOOD ENOUGH for gaming about 15 quid as a bundle 20 at most.

sooo not actually that expensive at all for hardware THAT IS NOT EQUIVALENT BUT SUPERIOR BY A REASONABLE MARGIN. And thats mostly purchased not custom built from parts (something that has been a little missed in this article ie the ease of which you can just buy a console and a purchased fully built "gaming" pc will cost u a lot more than he quoted methinks)

as for building a pc for the recommended specs for bf3 that ridiculous! consoles wont play at the "recommended" spec! why make a comparison like that?

i find myself getting into the pc vs console argument very frequently with various people and aside from ease of use to an extent and the splitscreen/everyone play off one machine to an extent are the ONLY two arguments besides preference that bear any weight for console.

Our games look better, our hardware isnt actually more expensive when compared like for like (ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE FAILURE RATE AND COST OF CONSOLE whereas pc usually one component fails - easy to replace it and cheap) our games are easier and cheaper to get hold of, dont have to change disc for games anymore. I even have 145 installed games available at my fingertips ease of use that you cant even come close to on console.

expense really isnt an argument you can use against pc gaming, only ignorance and silly bias and idiots like this guy at ign who badly portray the facts.

If you like consoles great, if you have your reasons for that great, but the only objective reasons for getting a console are ease of use, multiplayer on one console and perhaps the actual size of the console otherwise everything about PC gaming is better by comparison and this includes price.
    
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Are you going to buy a console if you don't own a TV?

Do you know a console will play on a standard TV out of the box?

Do you know you can play a console on a PC monitor via HDMI or VGA (Xbox 360 only for VGA)?

Do you know I didn't include the price of a monitor either because you can use a HDTV on your PC?

Do you know that either way, because you can use a monitor or a HDTV on both, the cost for both would be exactly the same for both platforms nullifying any point of adding the cost in the first place?

Did you think about this before blessing us with your insults?

Please enlighten me, who am I insulting on these forums? I am referring to the IGN article, even if you had the TV beforehand, should still include it with the cost.
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Rubbish. If it works in a console then it will work for a PC. You just need like for like components.



Haha, so you're basically saying a triple core PowerPC 3.2ghz CPU, 512mb of RAM clocked at 700mhz, and a X1950, running on a 203w PSU, in a PC, will run Battlefield 3 on high with 2x AA, upscaled to 1080p, on a 32" HDTV?

 

After all you want to go like for like, right?

 

Yeah, good luck with that argument. rolleyes.gif

 

If you show me evidence to prove me wrong I'll happily put my hand up and say I was wrong.

 

All this like for like sillyness vs console debate is pointless because who in their right mind will go searching for a X1950? Or an old triple core CPU anyway?

 

No one, or at least very few. Most people who want to buy a gaming PC will get one with modern parts in it, not parts that are 6 years old.

 

And let's be honest. The article, aswell as comparisons I've made, along with some others have made, are meant to show that even at a higher end of the scale PC gaming is not really that much more expensive. Which was the entire point. I'm sure you could build a like for like PC at a very reasonable cost. It isn't a like for like comparison. It's to show that PC gaming with decent hardware isn't as expensive as people seem to think it is (though their presentation of it is a little awkward to say the least).

 

The whole lure of PC gaming is that it's supposed to be a better experience than console gaming. Better graphics, faster gameplay, higher resolutions, better framerates. Not an equal, not like for like. After all that's what many PC gamers will tell you when trying to convert a console gamer to "the dark side". Otherwise they may aswell just keep their consoles and be done with it.

 

So your entire argument here is a bit pointless. If it was meant to be a like for like comparison you would probably have some sort of a point, but it's not. It's meant to show that modern age PC gaming isn't really any more expensive than console gaming.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by Lifeshield - 12/13/11 at 5:05am
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Are you going to buy a console if you don't own a TV?

Do you know a console will play on a standard TV out of the box?

Do you know you can play a console on a PC monitor via HDMI or VGA (Xbox 360 only for VGA)?

Do you know I didn't include the price of a monitor either because you can use a HDTV on your PC?

Do you know that either way, because you can use a monitor or a HDTV on both, the cost for both would be exactly the same for both platforms nullifying any point of adding the cost in the first place?

Did you think about this before blessing us with your insults?

Please enlighten me, who am I insulting on these forums? I am referring to the IGN article, even if you had the TV beforehand, should still include it with the cost.



Who was you insulting? Because according to the IGN article they include the HDTV in the price.

 

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 Taking all this into account, a 32 inch HD TV at £249.00 will suit our purposes.

 

 

 

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As dumb as this article (And the rig they chose) is, it is true though. After XBL Gold, the more expensive games, extra controllers (If you need them for whatever reason), storage upgrades, more expensive (In general) DLC, etc, consoles end up costing just as much if not more than a PC, if you only look at hardware purchases then yes, PCs are more expensive, but the games alone for console cost easily ~$20 more on average.
    
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Who was you insulting? Because according to the IGN article they include the HDTV in the price.




Ok, fair enough I was blind not to see that doh.gif but still price of PC games are cheaper, and also who doesn't own a PC in the first place?
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Ok, fair enough I was blind not to see that doh.gif but still price of PC games are cheaper, and also who doesn't own a PC in the first place?



That was the point of the article. Whether people see it or not (I see more raging about the hardware than anything else). PC gaming is not as expensive as people seem to think. It can cost less, but for an experience worth buying a PC to game with, running on decent hardware, it is no more expensive than owning a console.

 

 

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