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It's a poor debate when you consider both the fact that console owners are going to buy a PC anyway and that you can get much better deal on software for the PC. My game collection on Steam is much bigger than my PS3 collection and probably costs half as much. Even hard copies of PC games tend to be cheaper than they are on consoles.
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Originally Posted by james_ant View Post

Is this the same thread that I participated in a couple days ago? I have a 360, PS3, Wii and PC. When your comparing the 360 to PC I have to agree that over time PC is way cheaper than 360. PS3 is a little better because you don't really need to pay for online, but games for both cost me 67$ new, and they practically never go on sale.

I bought so much crap for my 360 like battery chargers and battery packs, extra controllers, overpriced memory sticks, and all of that stuff was a rip off.

Where PC games for me cost me practically nothing. I'm not even talking about piracy here, I'm talking about steam sales.

The point was also brought up about proprietary accessories. The fact that when you upgrade your PC, you get to keep your accessories. PC accessories like headphones also work on other devices. When you buy the next generation of consoles you have to buy all new controllers and other accessories.

Consoles are designed to make money, if they didn't make money Sony and Microsoft wouldn't be selling them.

Correct. MS/Sony make huge profits off the accessories. At initial launch of pretty much every console, they take a huge loss per unit sold, and make up for it in sales of accessories and games.
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Originally Posted by Lifeshield View Post

And now for my opinion.

 

This article doesn't really cover it at an essential level. I don't think it's entirely fair, on either platform. They lump on a pricey HDTV, and extra accessories, to rack up the cost for the console and the PC they built is laughably expensive for the crap they put in it.

 

I can build a reasonable PC with modern components that will play most games rather adequately for £400 (I know because I have, it's sitting in a box waiting to be sold on Ebay right now). Throw in an extra £20 for a mouse and keyboard (you can buy standard ones for £10 each at Maplins).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That is all you need for either. They're the essentials. 

 

No point in counting displays and speakers as essentials as you could use any around the home on both formats.

 

PC gaming costs twice as much on a hardware level, assuming one wants some up to date hardware. The real difference maker is in software.

 

Assuming every new game released on PC is £30 and every game released on console is £35 (I always buy console games at £35 from my favourite supermarket, you can also get console games pretty cheap online if you shop around). 1 game a month over three years.

 

 

 

 

Now let's add those totals up. So over three years...

 

 

 

 

This is a more accurate example I think.

 

That pretty much puts all platforms on par with each other with over a three year span.

 

 


Ehhhh that pc will not last you 3 years :/

A console lifespan is longet than that Of a pc.

And on top of that, playing a pc game with that machine means you're getting the same game quality as a console. So it's pretty useless. And you don't have to buy games at that price. Assumptions and more assumptions.
 
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I dunno. i just cant get past the part where you can buy a ps3 system for $250 brand new and b able to play any ps3 game ever made. but how far would $250 get ya in the pc world (brand new mind you)? when you look at the back of a ps3 game, all you see for requirements are hard drive space. For pc you have to have "X" OS, "X"CPU, "X"GPU.....just to play the game!
as far as the multiplayer goes......apparently i have had my head in the sand tongue.gif
post #95 of 214
You guys are also sort of comparing today's mid range/cheap hardware to that of consoles that launched 6 years ago.........


I want to see a PC that was built for $600 at the time of the PS3 Launch be able to run today's games, and include a blu-ray drive in that rig while you're at it that was probably $200 at the time. NO F"N WAY.

I mean really, will a 7800 GT be able to run BF3 at the console's frame rate and resolution? Maybe, but I doubt it and that card retailed at $450! You better be saving A LOT on games over that time span to make up the cost difference in hardware at launch.

Don't discount the fact that your PS3 games are going to get programmed direct to metal, while you're stuck with a card that likely won't even get driver support a few years down the road.



I love PC gaming too and much more so than consoles, but I pay a premium for it.
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Originally Posted by scouthound75 View Post

I dunno. i just cant get past the part where you can buy a ps3 system for $250 brand new and b able to play any ps3 game ever made. but how far would $250 get ya in the pc world (brand new mind you)? when you look at the back of a ps3 game, all you see for requirements are hard drive space. For pc you have to have "X" OS, "X"CPU, "X"GPU.....just to play the game!
as far as the multiplayer goes......apparently i have had my head in the sand tongue.gif

NOW, after the insane price drops the PS3 has had over the past 5 years, of COURSE it's a no-brainer that it is the cheaper way to go if you have absolutely NOTHING in your house at the moment. Even then, I would question that as you need a TV. The thing about that is, the PS3 is aging, and soon enough the developers will drop all PS3 development dead and start developing for PS4 and 720. You're essentially buying old hardware. The only fair analysis would be to purchase old PC hardware as well. One can get an older AMD X4 CPU, motherboard, and RAM all for just about $180. Add a 560Ti for $220 and you're at $400, roughly the price of a PS3 with just a couple of games.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=15757251

$410 all new. I think that's a pwn. Yes, you need a power supply, case, and DVD drive. Maybe $120 between all 3 if you shop right. That $410 list was all grabbed blindly by the way, without even really price hunting.
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 12/13/11 at 9:04am
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You guys are also sort of comparing today's mid range/cheap hardware to that of consoles that launched 6 years ago.........
I want to see a PC that was built for $600 at the time of the PS3 Launch be able to run today's games, and include a blu-ray drive in that rig while you're at it that was probably $200 at the time. NO F"N WAY.
I mean really, will a 7800 GT be able to run BF3 at the console's frame rate and resolution? Maybe, but I doubt it and that card retailed at $450! You better be saving A LOT on games over that time span to make up the cost difference in hardware at launch.
Don't discount the fact that your PS3 games are going to get programmed direct to metal, while you're stuck with a card that likely won't even get driver support a few years down the road.
I love PC gaming too and much more so than consoles, but I pay a premium for it.

^^Its exactly what ima tryin to say!
post #98 of 214
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Originally Posted by iWantACookie View Post

Dude your logic if flawed.
You're saying:
build a crap - half-decent computer that run games at low - medium settings without any peripherals whatsoever = cheap
buying a console + a NICE TV + sony-microsoft-branded controllers + reparation cost (as if PC doesn't need reparation rolleyes.gif) = costly
There's something missing somewhere.

There was nothing missing I was saying that the price of a television/monitor should be taken out of the equation completely learn to read the post.

I pointed out the controller pricing because for a decent mouse you can spend as little as 20 dollars and any keyboard will do as long as it lasts.

I have never once had a computer FAIL on me, after all my years no part has failed, short of fans, which last a good while so no reparation cost to computers. Where as the Xbox will RROD just sitting there

I have an Acer computer that I spent 80$ on to make into a gaming computer from back in 05-06 and it still runs current gen games including the new Alice, which still arguably runs games better than console. at higher settings.

Now I can spend another 50 and run those same games at high with my old 8800gt. which can be had for about 40-50 dollars now days.

Like everyone has been saying you can go with the top of the line enthusiast equipment or the budget equipment that does just fine and still outperforms consoles...

You also fail to realize that money can be MADE from buying a computer...

Yes consoles are great for the normal person who doesn't know crap about computers... those are the same people that buy macs because they think they are the best computers.
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I don't have to settle for store credit at game stores. Steam doesn't do returns as far as i know, but with better deals and more options for games, i think computer gaming is great. i like the game modding aspects of computer gaming, too. left 4 dead 2 i modded a lot, and changing the sounds was a lot easier than i thought.
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Ehhhh that pc will not last you 3 years :/



Tell that to the people who are still running 8800's and PIII's today.

 

 

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And on top of that, playing a pc game with that machine means you're getting the same game quality as a console.

 

 

Getting the same quality as a console? It runs PC Crysis at 1920x1080 resolution on high with no AA. I ran a few other current games on it while testing aswell, including the likes of Borderlands, Aliens vs Predator, Unreal Tournament 3, and Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Battlefield: Bad Company 2. All at the same resolution, some with slightly differing settings, all looking much better than their console counterparts.

 

Tried and tested. thumb.gif

 

So I think not, but nice try. It would struggle if you tried to run it at settings that would make even some of the stronger graphics cards cry in some games, but it is more than an adequate card at settings above and beyond the capabilities of either of the current generation consoles.

 

And on top of that you could buy a 560ti for an extra £50 if you wanted even better performance, but it's not really neccessary unless you really want to push the bar at 1920x1080 and beyond.

 

 


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