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I ask if anyone has tried this before. What I am doing is setting up a case (in this case it is a 4U rack mount) with several radiators (just a 360 and a 480 right now but I have room left for one of the thicker single rads. My res has 3 pumps off it (so I can run 3 loops). What I am doing is equipping my "hosts" with just cpu and gpu blocks (and the hoses) but running the hoses over to the mule to handle cooling duties. It is simply at take on trying something a bit different. The hoses on the "hosts" exit the pre-made holes provided by the case makers, with quick disconnects knew I would find use for those holes some day)and the mule is placed stratigicaly so as it can cool two rigs and the equipement located within the 4U case its self. I simply like to experiment a bit. I was hoping this arrangement allows my actual hosts to stay cleaner (no radiators,pumps,resivoirs)and less tubing on the hosts. Perhaps I can get away from using so many full size cases like I traditionally do. Pics forthcomming but as we all know it is finals time but I am over half done with my final this year. 3 more classes and I am a "grad" and can go to work at Best Buy:) (just kidding) This rig is something of a test rig where I develope my techniquies (I am using a lot of acrylic,copper pipe and component location needs some thought). My next "in progress" cooling mule build has more of a test station theme and has the ability to do a lot more electrical measurements. It is a double decker setup (I am seeing this technique a lot lately,where the coolin is contained in something like a base. Mine has a removable front (with all the electrical measurement gagues) and a removable top (that contains a square 4x120 radiator). It is time to try out some non-traditional radiator configurations, just to keep things interesting.I do not think my "mules" will be robust enough so as I can locate them outside (and benifit from not introducing the heat inside the house) as the elements are just too rough (mainly the effects of the sun).but this is an idea I am exploring.
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Would you be able to reformat your post so it'd be easier to read?
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Connectwise,you have interest in my activities,great !, what is it I can better explain?
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I ask if anyone has tried this before. What I am doing is setting up a case (in this case it is a 4U rack mount) with several radiators (just a 360 and a 480 right now but I have room left for one of the thicker single rads. My res has 3 pumps off it (so I can run 3 loops). What I am doing is equipping my "hosts" with just cpu and gpu blocks (and the hoses) but running the hoses over to the mule to handle cooling duties. It is simply at take on trying something a bit different. The hoses on the "hosts" exit the pre-made holes provided by the case makers, with quick disconnects knew I would find use for those holes some day)and the mule is placed stratigicaly so as it can cool two rigs and the equipement located within the 4U case its self. I simply like to experiment a bit. I was hoping this arrangement allows my actual hosts to stay cleaner (no radiators,pumps,resivoirs)and less tubing on the hosts. Perhaps I can get away from using so many full size cases like I traditionally do. Pics forthcomming but as we all know it is finals time but I am over half done with my final this year. 3 more classes and I am a "grad" and can go to work at Best Buy:) (just kidding) This rig is something of a test rig where I develope my techniquies (I am using a lot of acrylic,copper pipe and component location needs some thought). My next "in progress" cooling mule build has more of a test station theme and has the ability to do a lot more electrical measurements. It is a double decker setup (I am seeing this technique a lot lately,where the coolin is contained in something like a base. Mine has a removable front (with all the electrical measurement gagues) and a removable top (that contains a square 4x120 radiator). It is time to try out some non-traditional radiator configurations, just to keep things interesting.I do not think my "mules" will be robust enough so as I can locate them outside (and benifit from not introducing the heat inside the house) as the elements are just too rough (mainly the effects of the sun).but this is an idea I am exploring.

^he is talking about this abysmal block of text makes it hard to read. and frankly hurts the eyes frown.gif
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The only downside I am seeing is the length you are running these tubes. Are your pumps going to be able to handle that kind of head?
 
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That whole post, can be TL:DR'd to: Radboxes.
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The only downside I am seeing is the length you are running these tubes. Are your pumps going to be able to handle that kind of head?

Accodrding to my calculations the pumps will do the job. I will be monitoring flow rates at many different points and also monitoring pump amperage (can you think of another parameter to monitor to make a conclusion in regards to how my pumps are handling the work load? pump temperature comes to mind.). I see two different flow rate monitors on the Koolance site, I want to use both of them and make some conclusions as to their overall suitability. I ask if you know of a proven flow rate monitor, there has to be some out there that have the accuracy I desire.I hate to move into the industrial quality equipment area, but if it is the only way to get good data I will.

I think my idea could work out for a person that wants "non-kit" watercooling and has a case that is not really suited to "select individual parts on your own" watercooling. One of my 10 or so PC cases is an Antec P183 case that uses mATX size motherboards, I do not see fitting the equipment I would like to use inside this case
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What kind of rig are you going to have in this cooling box? How are you planning on monitoring it?

Honestly, the way I would do it is just have a little linux box inside, have the flow meters and sensors plugged into either the motherboard or a PCB board, then have the system e-mail you the stats periodically. Or I guess you could have it text you technically whenever a stat drops below a predefined value. On a typical system that would be overkill but since this is going to be monitoring multiple systems it might not be a bad idea.

As for meteres why do you care about such precise accuracy? If you know HOW inaccurate they are you can adjust for that. Most meters are hit and miss. I would probably grab one of the koolance ones personally.
 
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What kind of rig are you going to have in this cooling box? How are you planning on monitoring it?
Honestly, the way I would do it is just have a little linux box inside, have the flow meters and sensors plugged into either the motherboard or a PCB board, then have the system e-mail you the stats periodically. Or I guess you could have it text you technically whenever a stat drops below a predefined value. On a typical system that would be overkill but since this is going to be monitoring multiple systems it might not be a bad idea.
As for meteres why do you care about such precise accuracy? If you know HOW inaccurate they are you can adjust for that. Most meters are hit and miss. I would probably grab one of the koolance ones personally.

I care about the quality of my data as I am going to make decsions based on this data,like is this flow enough,is the pump over amping,that kind of trival stuff.
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