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post #11 of 30
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Originally Posted by bkraptor View Post

Ask one of your friends to switch the polling rate for you and try to guess which polling rate it is. Try it several times and post the results here.
I'm not just a casual gamer, i used to play cs 10-14 hours a day a few years back. I know exactly what i'm talking about, but i can't describe the feeling (not to mention my english is limited). If you would give me another mouse and do that test, probably i can't tell if it's 500 or 1000. But if we use MY SETUP then i will tell you each time exactly what polling rate i'm using. When you play thousands of hours with 500 Hz and then switch to 1000 you "feel" the difference immediately.
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I doubt that you can feel this 1ms lag but there might be something else changing in tracking of a mouse that you actually feel. In case of 60 Hz vs 120 Hz, you can clearly see more fps so it's different and input lag diference is 8ms .
I'm not talking about what i can see with my eyes. When you increase the refresh rate on a monitor you can feel the cursor becomes smoother. Especially when you go from 60 Hz to 120 Hz. By now the mouse is part of my hand and i can feel even an increase of 50 DPI in sensitivity.
Just because you guys can't feel these differences, doesn't mean it's just in my mind. I wouldn't use one polling rate over another if i don't see the difference clearly.
post #12 of 30
I use a white mouse pad with my Xornet and have a LOD of 2 cds and I haven't been able to hit the perfect control speed while gaming. I also have no issues with jitter or acceleration. I haven't used the Spawn, so I can't compare.
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Like you, I'm a ridiculously hardcore gamer. I played at competitive LAN in my chosen game and am very sensitive to my PC setup (most of us are in the same boat though, or we wouldn't be posting).

I still honestly don't think the difference of a 3ms polling rate is comparable to the .6m/s when the cards are down. You may _feel_ the difference, but you'll learn how to deal with 250hz a lot easier than your mouse freaking out when you move it fast. The reason most 'pro' gamers up their polling rates is to get more PCS from their mice, and whilst I agree that moving from 125hz to 250hz will probably give you a noticable amount of smoothness, its definitely a case of diminishing returns the faster you go.

In any event, you're free to have your opinion, and I'll have mine.
post #14 of 30
You guys should try PS/2 and 200hz. Stable as hell.
post #15 of 30
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Originally Posted by allan_nub View Post

Like you, I'm a ridiculously hardcore gamer. I played at competitive LAN in my chosen game and am very sensitive to my PC setup (most of us are in the same boat though, or we wouldn't be posting).

I still honestly don't think the difference of a 3ms polling rate is comparable to the .6m/s when the cards are down. You may _feel_ the difference, but you'll learn how to deal with 250hz a lot easier than your mouse freaking out when you move it fast. The reason most 'pro' gamers up their polling rates is to get more PCS from their mice, and whilst I agree that moving from 125hz to 250hz will probably give you a noticable amount of smoothness, its definitely a case of diminishing returns the faster you go.

In any event, you're free to have your opinion, and I'll have mine.

It's not an opinion. I never said 500 or 1000 is better than 250 Hz. It's just my personal preference. There's no right or wrong. That's why i game @ 120Hz rr and not 100 ... the cursor (crosshair) feels smoother. It's the same with the polling rate and nobody can argue with this. After all the mouse sends more informations to your computer.
Edited by kaingosu - 12/14/11 at 5:30pm
post #16 of 30
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It's the same with the polling rate and nobody can argue with this. After all the mouse sends more informations to your computer.

It actually sends the same information, but less frequently. So if you had 1000 Hz polling rate you would have 4 polls that each report a count of 10. For the same distance (and speed), at a polling rate of 250 Hz you would get a single report of 40 counts. It's the same quantity, but reported in smaller (and some might say more precise) chunks. I really doubt you can differentiate between polling rates when doing a blind test, no matter how pr0z you are. You should try the experiment I posted about in my previous post. If you have any doubts you can PM me in your native language, I'll understand perfectly well smile.gif
post #17 of 30
@ HWI
what white Mousepad do you use?
post #18 of 30
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@ HWI
what white Mousepad do you use?

I think he uses the Artisan Shiden XSoft, which I've used as well. It's a great pad.
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post #19 of 30
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Originally Posted by bkraptor View Post

It actually sends the same information, but less frequently.
Which means more/less informations/sec, just like i said.
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I really doubt you can differentiate between polling rates when doing a blind test, no matter how pr0z you are.
People feel different things in different ways. You can doubt it, but i'm still going to notice the difference biggrin.gif
post #20 of 30
Which carries more information within one second: 1000 consecutive polls each reporting 100 counts or 250 polls each reporting 400 counts?

What I am saying is that the information is the same, just the granularity of the reports is better on paper for the higher poll rate, but I doubt that any human being can scientifically guess which polling rate is being used. Unless you perform a blind test, you can believe whatever you want, but I will not.
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