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Looking great, liking the new big fixes and look forward to our hardware being beefed up thumb.gif
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The whole website respond time is so much slower.

 
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post #13 of 44

Gallery: my pre-huddler pics are still unreachable through the Gallery.

 

In-thread pics: are reduced in size to fit the window + frame decorations. No toggle to full size.

 

 

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post #14 of 44
still chewing on cpu and ram, the pixel.qunserve.com problem still exists for ie7 and firefox 3 and 4 browsers on all platforms.

Good to see the trivial issues were adressed but the serious ones like page load time, render loads, overuse of JS, extraneous navigation, obfuscated controls.

Those are all still present.

Good job.
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still chewing on cpu and ram, the pixel.qunserve.com problem still exists for ie7 and firefox 3 and 4 browsers on all platforms.

Good to see the trivial issues were adressed but the serious ones like page load time, render loads, overuse of JS, extraneous navigation, obfuscated controls.

Those are all still present.

Good job.

Tomorrow the database infrastructure is seeing a significant boost in hardware capability, which should improve responsiveness - at the same time those upgrades are being made, some of the network setup between application and database servers is being reworked to reduce latency between those two sets of servers. The next major release, roughly two weeks from today, is set to include a number of refactored database queries which have been heavily optimized over their previous versions. This particular release did not feature much in the performance camp, you're right, but there is still much more coming in that arena.

Also, as an addendum to the posted notes, the following bugs were also fixed in this release:
  1. Ad banners should no longer load out of their assigned places
  2. Odd link-opening behavior where a link would sometimes open a new blank tab and refresh the existing page is fixed
  3. Navigation issues in Opera 11.60 are fixed
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Tomorrow the database infrastructure is seeing a significant boost in hardware capability, which should improve responsiveness - at the same time those upgrades are being made, some of the network setup between application and database servers is being reworked to reduce latency between those two sets of servers. The next major release, roughly two weeks from today, is set to include a number of refactored database queries which have been heavily optimized over their previous versions. This particular release did not feature much in the performance camp, you're right, but there is still much more coming in that arena.
Also, as an addendum to the posted notes, the following bugs were also fixed in this release:
  1. Ad banners should no longer load out of their assigned places
  2. Odd link-opening behavior where a link would sometimes open a new blank tab and refresh the existing page is fixed
  3. Navigation issues in Opera 11.60 are fixed

Thats all fine and dandy, but its not going to improve the interactivity to the user on his end, thanks to the overall design of the site and the languages and api's in use.
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The post count is broken again smile.gif. You guys must be running some things in the background biggrin.gif
 
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Originally Posted by Chipp View Post

Tomorrow the database infrastructure is seeing a significant boost in hardware capability, which should improve responsiveness - at the same time those upgrades are being made, some of the network setup between application and database servers is being reworked to reduce latency between those two sets of servers. The next major release, roughly two weeks from today, is set to include a number of refactored database queries which have been heavily optimized over their previous versions. This particular release did not feature much in the performance camp, you're right, but there is still much more coming in that arena.
Also, as an addendum to the posted notes, the following bugs were also fixed in this release:
  1. Ad banners should no longer load out of their assigned places
  2. Odd link-opening behavior where a link would sometimes open a new blank tab and refresh the existing page is fixed
  3. Navigation issues in Opera 11.60 are fixed

Thats all fine and dandy, but its not going to improve the interactivity to the user on his end, thanks to the overall design of the site and the languages and api's in use.

Can you elaborate ?smile.gif
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Can you elaborate ?smile.gif

NB. there are on average 15 JS calls on every OCN page.

Since all JavaScript in a browser executes on a single thread, asynchronous events (such as mouse clicks and timers) are only run when there's been an opening in the execution.

Since JavaScript can only ever execute one piece of code at a time (due to its single-threaded nature) each of these blocks of code are "blocking" the progress of other asynchronous events. This means that when an asynchronous event occurs (like a mouse click, or an XMLHttpRequest completing) it gets queued up to be executed later (how this queueing actually occurs varies from browser-to-browser, so consider this to be a simplification).

Browsers tend to simply wait until no more interval handlers are queued (for the interval in question) before queuing more.

So until ALL JS has been run on the page (including any JS adverts) there is a good chance no other JS calls will be run.

As for mobile devices, these do not seem to of been followed:

Good mobile AJAX practices

AJAH (asynchronous Javascript and XHTML), AHAH (Asynchronous HTML and HTTP)
XML manipulation on mobile devices is quite processor-intensive. Such operations can have a significant drain on the battery life of a device. The developer should exercise prudence. One way to address this drain is to offload processor-intensive operations such as XML manipulation to the server. Only preformatted HTML is sent back to the client, thus reducing the amount of work required by the client. This approach has the added benefit that the page will render more quickly too since the result has been pre-formatted.

Plan to build a normal non-AJAX site, and iteratively add AJAX to it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ENTERPRISE View Post

Can you elaborate ?smile.gif

NB. there are on average 15 JS calls on every OCN page.

Since all JavaScript in a browser executes on a single thread, asynchronous events (such as mouse clicks and timers) are only run when there's been an opening in the execution.

Since JavaScript can only ever execute one piece of code at a time (due to its single-threaded nature) each of these blocks of code are "blocking" the progress of other asynchronous events. This means that when an asynchronous event occurs (like a mouse click, or an XMLHttpRequest completing) it gets queued up to be executed later (how this queueing actually occurs varies from browser-to-browser, so consider this to be a simplification).

Browsers tend to simply wait until no more interval handlers are queued (for the interval in question) before queuing more.

So until ALL JS has been run on the page (including any JS adverts) there is a good chance no other JS calls will be run.

As for mobile devices, these do not seem to of been followed:

Good mobile AJAX practices

AJAH (asynchronous Javascript and XHTML), AHAH (Asynchronous HTML and HTTP)
XML manipulation on mobile devices is quite processor-intensive. Such operations can have a significant drain on the battery life of a device. The developer should exercise prudence. One way to address this drain is to offload processor-intensive operations such as XML manipulation to the server. Only preformatted HTML is sent back to the client, thus reducing the amount of work required by the client. This approach has the added benefit that the page will render more quickly too since the result has been pre-formatted.

Plan to build a normal non-AJAX site, and iteratively add AJAX to it.

Thanks for the lesson in JS and XML Etc. smile.gif However I was wondering what the other user meant by End user experience. smile.gif
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