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Hello guys,

I'm trying to decide whether to save myself the time and go with an EVGA GTX580 Hydro Copper 2, or to buy a vanilla EVGA GTX580 and mount a Watercool Heatkiller FC block onto it. There has been word that the HC2 swiftech blocks are restrictive; however, most people use data from a Swiftech GTX480 HC block which is far different than the HC2. Here are some pics of the HC2 internals:

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=685866&mpage=1

I realize that the EVGA HC2 is approximately $200 more than a vanilla GTX580, and factoring in the Heatkiller block the HC2 would still be almost $100 more. The card does come with the convenience of the already mounted cooler though.

Applications will be primarily gaming and solidworks modelling. The system will be as follows:

Intel i7-2600K Sandybridge OC
ASUS P8P67-Deluxe (3.0) MOBO
Corsair Vengeance 8gb (2x4gb) DDR3-1600
Corsair HX620W Power Supply (is this a bit low?)
Corsair Performance Pro 256gb SSD
Corsair 800D Case

Watercooling setup:

Swiftech MCP35B Pump
XSPC RX360 Radiator
Watercool Heatkiller Rev 3.0 CPU Block
XSPC Dual 5.25in Reservoir for one Laing DDC
Primochill Tubing

Thanks in advance for your input. All suggestions will be appreciated.

Cheers,

Matt
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post #2 of 15
your basically paying for the name. the water block does have some flow restriction, more then others because of the low profile. you would be able to use the pci lane right under it.

it would be cheaper to add your own block and you would probably get slightly lower temps.


correct me if im wrong but i think EVGA's water series will overclock better because they used better bins on them. but im probably wrong.
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I have just got 2 3gb hydro copper 2's and I am very pleased with them. I will disagree with the comment you are just paying for the name. You are paying for the fact the card is ready out of the box to go straight into your loop.

If you are happy to buy a normal card, a water block and a backplate and then fit it yourself then you will save yourself some money.

However for me I liked the convenience of ordering one item and having it ready to go straight In my loop.

The card itself is great, both of mine have oc'ed to 980/2100 @ 1.15v and are rock solid stable playing bf3 and Benchmarking. In my loop with a rx360 and 120mm rad, they idle at 21c and max at 43c while playing bf3 on ultra.

For me I am very pleased I got them. Plus you have a 5 year warranty out of the box smile.gif
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post #4 of 15
go with HC2's i say, gives peace of mind with the warranty, if you put your own block on it voids it i think
post #5 of 15
Some 580's come with the IHS not on as well. Plus I like the way that the HC2 looks alot.
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EVGA GTX 580 Hydro copper 2 wins this.

EVGA GTX 580 Hydro copper 2
Pros
  • Warranty
  • Block already attached
  • 1 lane PCI e
  • Will overclock higher

Cons
  • You have to pay for it
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I will disagree with the comment you are just paying for the name. You are paying for the fact the card is ready out of the box to go straight into your loop.

why not buy a already completed computer thats water cooled? rolleyes.gif

i dont trust companys applying thermal compound too many bad experiences. like they use cheap bulk thermal paste and quite frequently too much of it.
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I will disagree with the comment you are just paying for the name. You are paying for the fact the card is ready out of the box to go straight into your loop.

why not buy a already completed computer thats water cooled? rolleyes.gif

It's all personal preference.
Edited by Kenetic - 12/16/11 at 9:08am
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post #9 of 15
they charge $200 on the water block alone (minus the stock heatsink) most aftermarket charge about $100 for pretty much the same thing (probably better)
the $100 difference is going where? for someone that installed the block for you? i wouldnt pay someone $100 to install a waterblock on a GPU. but i guess you will.
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post #10 of 15
Just to clarify putting a waterblock on an air cooled card does not void your EVGA warranty provided you #1 keep the original heatsink and remount it before sending in your card for RMA and #2 you do not physically damage the card during the installation or the block. Personally I would buy a card with a block already on it so I didn't have to worry about swapping around heatsinks and/or losing the stock heatsink over the years.
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