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39-41C Idle temps with 960T??!!

post #1 of 18
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It's been a while since I've been on the experimenting/troubleshooting end of OC'ing thanks to the help of the nice people of OCN with my sig rig! Well to start I have been building an HTPC/Light gaming rig for my brother that includes the following equipment:

***First of all if you don't know already, Newegg will sell CPU/MOBO combo deals that are in no way compatible ( I should've looked closer, but I bought a FX-4100 chip combo with the asus M4a88t-m le board, thinking it was one of the ASUS boards that could use BD with a BIOS update... WRONG)****

Sooo after that I found the 960T for $110 on Newegg, I was excited after reading successes of low temps and great OC potential

I now had a configuration as follows:

CPU: 960T
Board: asus m4a88t-m le
RAM: Gskill 8GB (4x2)
GPU: Zotac GT 430 1GB
PSU: Thermaltake 500W (Not their best series as I later realized but will work for now)
CASE: Silverstone GD05

So once I booted up, messed around in the BIOS a little bit, tried both locked cores...no dice frown.gif (and don't worry I didn't plan on running either of the other cores for extended periods of time with stock cooling) OC'd to 3.8x4 (as I've seen many people have success with on air and stock cooling) with 1.3Vcore installed windows, I opened up HWMonitor and saw that TMP01 was at 51C at Idle! Now after looking at the individual core temps they were about 10 degrees cooler, so I thought well maybe there is a discrepancy in the temps so I booted into the BIOS and reset all settings to default and rebooted.

Once back in the BIOS I checked the BIOS temp and it was still 39C!! Now I should've checked the BIOS temp when I first booted the machine up, but I was too excited and a little impatient...

Then after booting into windows with all stock settings, my temps in HWmonitor tmp01 were at 39C just like the BIOS! This is still what the machine idles at.

I used MASSCOOL's shin-etsu from newegg, in a pea sized dot on the chip and then just carefully mounted the factory HS. I thought at first that maybe I had applied it wrong,(though I've done it many times on my sig and never had a problem) so I removed the HS and it was almost perfectly distributed. I reapplied, only to see the same results.

The one thing I don't like about the Silverstone case is that it only comes with two fans mounted on one side of the case (although they both blow directly onto the HS) . All the time I was testing, I had the case open, so even with poor airflow I can't see getting these kind of temps with an open case.

What the heck is going on??! mad.gif
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post #2 of 18
Most likely poor airflow. If you are on stock HSF grab a different one. My 955 did this even with great Antec 902 airflow when it had stock cooling.
 
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post #3 of 18
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how high were your idle temps?
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post #4 of 18
Around 36 C on all cores. As weird as it sound I think the AMD stock HSF is too weak, the fan can't push the air away creating a pocket of warm air, I bought a aftermarket HSF and the issue went away.

Perhaps grab one of these? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
Edited by snoball - 12/14/11 at 7:10am
 
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post #5 of 18
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Now are you referring to the core temps in HWmonitor? Because the core temps were always fine (about 30C) but the tmpin0 or whatever it is, was 39C, and the cpu temp in the bios was also 39C, so i assumed that it was the correct reading.... has anyone determined once and for all which temps are the ones referred to in the max temps of AMD chips? Or which software program most accurately shows temp? I know I could get an infrared thermometer, but even that's just going to measuring the temp of the heatsink and not the actual core...
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bump? please help
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post #7 of 18
Trying to overclock and overvolt a processor on stock cooling inside of a HTPC case?

Gee, never would've guessed you would have heat problems....confused.gif
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Yes I understand but right now the case is open and there are two 120mm fans blowing directly on the heatsink. Im not expecting miracles, and as I stated in my post its running at 39C on STOCK VOLTAGE with NO OC involved. I need to know if this is normal, or if there is an issue with the chip. I realize I will not be able to OC at all with this heatsink, I just need to know if there is an issue with the chip itself after hearing all of the people with such low temps with this chip on stock cooling.
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PLEASE HELP ME OCN!...you've never let me down! Well now after leaving my computer on all morning the bios temps are now at 45C.....IDLE.. this can't be normal... even in an HTPC case with stock cooling....or is it? I've got to know.. I've searched and searched forums and everywhere I can find on the web with no answers.......
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PLEASE HELP ME OCN!...you've never let me down! Well now after leaving my computer on all morning the bios temps are now at 45C.....IDLE.. this can't be normal... even in an HTPC case with stock cooling....or is it? I've got to know.. I've searched and searched forums and everywhere I can find on the web with no answers.......

Your room temperature?

And a screenshot of HWMonitor would be nice.
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