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For neat, detail oriented builds GPU-only blocks are far from suitable. They make the system appear cheap and cluttered. I find them to be a makeshift solution at best. Not to mention that cooling VRMs is usually one of the largest benefits of FC blocks, something that would not be possible in this scenario at all. I only ever saw once or twice somebody manufacture a 2-piece VGA block.
I doubt you will be seeing many WC manufacturers partnering with graphics cards makers to put out cards with preinstalled blocks. Not to mention that those solutions usually cost at least 15%-25% more than the same solution that you put together yourself.
Non-standard PCB layout makes this impossible. That is what is meant by allowing non-reference cards at launch.

well, then partly bad news, good thing i have not started water cooling my gpu's
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This is disastrous for watercooling. This will force custom watercooled solutions to be only available on one model of the card at best forcing any end-user such as myself to either buy that model and live with it as-is, or forget watercooling GPUs.
This IMHO is terrible news. If this really happens I do not see many watercooling companies even making any full-cover GPU blocks at all. What is going in with the market frown.gif

Dude, settle down. Not everyone wants to water cool their gpu's and I for one will be happy to not have to wait 3+ months to buy a decent non-reference 7970...
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Twin Frozr IV 7970....

Yes Please, make that 2x and they can take my money.
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Asus HD 7950 DirectCU III

Noyce.
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You guys who are complaining do realize there will be plenty of reference design cards as well right?
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Dude, settle down. Not everyone wants to water cool their gpu's and I for one will be happy to not have to wait 3+ months to buy a decent non-reference 7970...
Who made you the boss of the Internet? I actually pointed out a real problem for a particular market segment. I clearly see the benefit to the average consumer, but I also see a huge drawback to an enthusiast segment. You made no argument in your post what-so-ever other than yapping about how you are happy that you will be able to buy a non-reference card. Do I really care? rolleyes.gif
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You guys who are complaining do realize there will be plenty of reference design cards as well right?
That actually remains to be seen. AIBs could decide not to make any reference cards, or very few. That leaves only OEM AMD cards as reference.
Edited by dejanh - 12/14/11 at 2:21pm
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Who made you the boss of the Internet? I actually pointed out a real problem for a particular market segment. I clearly see the benefit to the average consumer, but I also see a huge drawback to an enthusiast segment. You made no argument in your post what-so-ever other than yapping about how you are happy that you will be able to buy a non-reference card. Do I really care? rolleyes.gif
That actually remains to be seen. AIBs could decide not to make any reference cards, or very few. That leaves only OEM AMD cards as reference.

Omg, you need to relax. I didn't personally attack you or claim to be "boss of the internet.". I just said that you were (and still are) acting all hysterical because the majority of gpu buyers will be able to get cool, non-reference cards from day one. Of course there will still be reference cards made, don't be ignorant..
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You guys who are complaining do realize there will be plenty of reference design cards as well right?
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Omg, you need to relax. I didn't personally attack you or claim to be "boss of the internet.". I just said that you were (and still are) acting all hysterical because the majority of gpu buyers will be able to get cool, non-reference cards from day one. Of course there will still be reference cards made, don't be ignorant..
No, I'm not hysterical, but I am concerned. I'm certainly not losing any hair over it though. The problem that I pointed out is very real though. However, if you are not into watercooling then you would neither know about it or really worry about it at all. I also know that there will still be reference cards made, but you do not know how many. When all AIBs are forced to make reference initially it is more incentive for watercooling manufacturers to make blocks for the cards because they know they will sell them. When you have a few cards there is not much incentive because profit margins as-is are very tight for most of these guys.
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Who made you the boss of the Internet? I actually pointed out a real problem for a particular market segment. I clearly see the benefit to the average consumer, but I also see a huge drawback to an enthusiast segment. You made no argument in your post what-so-ever other than yapping about how you are happy that you will be able to buy a non-reference card. Do I really care? rolleyes.gif
That actually remains to be seen. AIBs could decide not to make any reference cards, or very few. That leaves only OEM AMD cards as reference.

And exactly what other high end card launch have you sen that happen??

AIB's will launch a crap load of reference designs (Sapphire will flood the market anyway) and they will also release their higher clocked / better cooled cards at a higher price point.
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Either there will be reference cards, or there will be non-reference blocks. In any case, watercoolers like myself are good2go.
    
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