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post #11 of 18
Their website says, "12. Will the letters on the keycaps wear off eventually? NEVER! Characters can't chip off the key caps or wear down because we use a sublimated negative printing process which drives the ink into the plastic keycaps at 525°F. This means permanent printing from the inside out, not just on the top, and gives the letters a permanent place inside the plastic."

And:

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"In the first picture you see the top view of a blank keycap. This shows you that the keycap is actually two pieces: an outer black piece that is the 'skirt' of the keycap, and the center piece which is white so we can print a character on it.

In the second picture, you see the bottom view of the same keycap. Notice again that it is two pieces, the center piece and the outer skirt.

In the third picture you see an example of a keycap that has had an 'A' printed on it just to complete the example.

We print the characters on the keycaps at our factory using a sublimation process. First we place all the keycaps into a blank tray. Next, we place a large sheet of paper with ink on it over these blank keycaps and put them into our sublimating machine. This machine uses pressure and heat to send the ink on the paper into the white plastic part of the keycap. This is why the characters will never rub off - the coloring is INSIDE the plastic and not just painted on top like most all other manufacturers.

This is also the reason you are able to see the color of the LEDs through the keycap. The printing pattern we use leaves the printed on letters white, and screens the rest of the top of the keycap by printing them in black. The light of the LED shines through the section of the keycap that is still white and is not allowed to shine through the black sections. "
Edited by Elvandar - 12/16/11 at 9:56pm
post #12 of 18
isn't that dye sub?

now im not 100% sure on this but, pbt can not be doubleshot. and if they are, they would be extremely expensive.

i wish they would just say what materials they use.
Edited by waar - 12/16/11 at 10:01pm
post #13 of 18
geekhack says:

"The Deck keycaps are 2 piece PBT with dyesub printing. Filco is ABS with pad printing.
The keys on the Filco get shiny quickly. "

"Weird, I've got the Ninja and Deck, too. I don't think you could have picked two better keyboards, IMO. My Deck is linear, so I can't comment on the MX Clear, but the keycaps are PBT. The Deck is a very nice keyboard if you can accept it aesthetically, and the backlighting is excellent, so I think you'll end up liking it. My Ninja is tactile and they have ABS keycaps. I like the Ninja quite a lot, and so it is my personal favourite."
post #14 of 18
thank you, that's what i was looking for (a review)


and, like i said.. they are not double shot. they are dye sub pbt keycaps.

you can't, to my knowledge, have double shot pbt keycaps. either engraved/engraved w/ infill, or dye sub and im sure they could pad print them but that would be ugly.

now if only they would fix their font, lower the price 10-15 dollars and offer different switches then i would love to get a deck 82.
Edited by waar - 12/16/11 at 10:08pm
post #15 of 18
But honestly are double shot ABS or PBT better keycaps overall?
post #16 of 18
well, in terms of feel im more of a fan of PBT. they have a nice texture to them that feels great on the fingers.

double shots abs are good also, but they tend to have a slick type finish and will get shinier over time. but honestly, i have no problems with either of them.

and then that whole legends staying visible years later thing, that helps a lot.
Edited by waar - 12/16/11 at 10:21pm
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post #18 of 18
The font thing isn't that big of a deal. You can just get a used TG3 Bl82 off of ebay and swap the keycaps over and you have a normal looking font. Although, I agree they should come with a regular looking font from deck.

Also the TG3 Bl82 is a mini and in rare cases comes with MX Clear switches.
Edited by magna224 - 12/18/11 at 11:26am
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