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Only way to get a 16 core proc is to go IL.. and these guys have flat out rejected them.

If I already had 6100 series I would reject them too. But if you are buying new IL will be the way forward.
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The IL uses a bit more power than MC cpus but they are half the price when you compare the 6174 MC and the 6274 IL. I can live with saving $600 per cpu and getting pretty much the same ppd but with a little more power use. Getting a IL 4P machine is still a good deal and the way to go when buying a new system.
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I agree with you if you are planning on buying new. Used the price gap usually is the MC is cheaper and the IL is slightly more.

A 6174 is like $550ish on fleabay.
    
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I agree with you if you are planning on buying new. Used the price gap usually is the MC is cheaper and the IL is slightly more.

A 6174 is like $550ish on fleabay.

This... and this is the way to go. For one thing, atm you're going to need a 61xx just to flash the bios on the board to accept the 62xx. There really is no reason not to get the procs off ebay...chances are they've never seen the kind of use and loading that we're going to put them through devil.gif
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This... and this is the way to go. For one thing, atm you're going to need a 61xx just to flash the bios on the board to accept the 62xx. There really is no reason not to get the procs off ebay...chances are they've never seen the kind of use and loading that we're going to put them through devil.gif

Didnt even think about that. You would think a new motherboard will come with the newest bios. Im really tempted to get me a IL setup. I just wonder if we(folders) should wait for the second stepping to see if they get any better.
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IL doesn't flat out beat MC, you need to take into consideration PPD/W. Also, if you wait for an auction, you can get 6174s (about == to 6272s) for $450. I'll take the MC for $400 less and be happy it takes up less watts. thumb.gif

Most [H] members love the l5640 because of how much cheaper it used to be. Most have moved on from SR-2 builds since then. However, since prices of all chips have dropped there are others that are great deals. The l5640 is still a great chip, it just doesn't have the highest multi and so it is no longer the outright best chip to go for when folding if you have sufficient cooling.

I would defiantly go with an SR-2 over an Asus board. The overclocking will net you far more points, well worth the ~$300 price premium. I'm having some serious second thoughts about selling my SR-2.

Honestly, folders should wait until some IL hit fleabay. Once they start going for $350 used, that will be the time to grab yourself a set.

2 x 6128 will get you about 95k PPD on a 6904. It is a good start, it will let you continue folding bigadv with the next update, so overall, a pretty good build with a nice upgrade path.
Edited by hoth17 - 12/16/11 at 11:10am
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I guess we have to wait and see about the 6128's. That kind of ppd is the same as an oc i7 970/980 and we dont know if is going to be enough to finish the -hugeadv on time with the upcoming changes.
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.. that's why you need 4 of them. wink.gif
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A 4P Super Micro board for 800 and two of those 6128 for 150 bucks a pop sounds like a nice way to start while you save up some money, too bad they only ship to USA and currently the only 4P SM that would be shipping to me cost 950 with shipping.
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Yes if, you don't want to go used off of fleaby, the the interlagos are about half the price. IL are a bit faster than MC, however take up more power. The decision between the two is completely a personal preference, whether the extra wattage is worth it.
gsa, yeah I went ahead and and splurged on a 4p rig. I went the MC route, recently ordering 4 6174s which should be here early next week. So far, I have the motherboard [/URL and ram.
For those curious, the board only takes up to 1333 ram, so I went for tighter timings.
Pr0n...

That looks mighty fine, what cooling are you gonna use? What model is that? The H8QGi-F-O seems to the one you find going on Fleabay, and according to the specs it supports up to 1600MHz memory. Are you able to set timings manually on these boards or are you stuck with what the manufacturer of the memory deemed fine?
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2 x 6128 will get you about 95k PPD on a 6904. It is a good start, it will let you continue folding bigadv with the next update, so overall, a pretty good build with a nice upgrade path.

That roughly what a single OCd 1366 Hex would get, but it gives you a way better upgrade path as you say.
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I have everything but the CPU's now. I'm 90% sure I'll be going with the 6272 Interlagos 16 core. It's hard to get a handle on how many PPD it will do as these processors just came out but I am thinking it will be really similar in performance to hoths SR-2 rig, so about 200k PPD or so. (6904)

Note even Close..

seeing how 2p 6276(higher clocked than yours at 2.3Ghz) can only manage to score 14 points one CineBench 11.5(highly threaded app)
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j437/nicalandia/42233.png

seeing how an OC SandyB -E is also doing 14 points. I Highly dought your NOT overclockable CPUs can keep up with EVGA SR-2 oc chips.

CineBench as well as F@H likes High OC chips instead of multi socket CPUs, due to the fact that there is NO cpu Latencies in a single socket CPU than a multi socket system.

you wanna know how a 16 core interlagos CPU performs on F@H? see what TPF numbers a FX-8150 OC at 4Ghz can do and that will be your 16 core interlagos numbers also. wanna know what is the TPF of a 32 core interlagos system? take that number and multiply it by 2.

so the Idea of making 16 core now a must for BigAdv is ludicrous to me. seen how a single 6c/12T intel CPU at stock is able to out perform it by a large%.
16c AMD at 2.2 = 8c AMD at 4+ GHZ
8c AMD at 4+GHZ< 4c/12T Intel CPU clock for clock.
6c/12T Intel is 50%> 4c/12T Intel CPU clock for clock

is 6c/12T Intel CPU 50%> 16 core AMD CPU? Hell yeah, I say its more than 50%
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