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Then the military industrial complex? No sir, you're incorrect.

Than.

Than the military-industrial complex.






Than=comparison
Then=sequence in time


jFc
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Wasn't it China that slipped in millions Rifles made for the USA military using plastic parts in them that are made to malfunction after so many shots fired. Called sprinkling I believe because they dont do it to every one just like 1 in every 100 or 1000 but that number is a lot if you add up the millions of weapons created.
    
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post #33 of 75
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Welcome back DEC Alpha, you were deeply missed.

Well since the Alpha became the Athlon and kicked Intels ass, maybe we should welcome our new Chinese CPU overlords?

Also, I believe reverse engineering is legal for the purposes of interoperability. You could make a hell of a case that reverse engineering the x86 is necessary to make a compatible chip.
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wait...wat?

Can I have some of your frugs?

i can haz frugs too?
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what ducky said is completely true
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Besides the USA owes China so much money they can`t complain about anything, sorry.
OT: Let China "develop" what they want - if it is good, well marketed and inexpensive people will buy it. The markets are flooded with stuff from China and if no one would buy that the Chinese wouldn`t produce that.
So bring the benchmarks and show what they can do.
agreed however in general, past experience will heavily deter purchasing of chinese parts, even if they are considered "well made" or "high quality" by QC, I myself prefer to purchase parts from hong kong over china due to the amount of bogus parts that I get.
Until a part is deemed to have sufficient quality by the general public, then word of the technology being sold will be small.

Agreed however in general, past experience will heavily deter purchasing of Canadian parts, even if they are considered "well made" or "high quality" by QC, I myself prefer to purchase parts from Toronto over Canada due to the amount of bogus parts that I get.
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post #36 of 75
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yes however hong kongs industry is better than that of china's in general. Not only that they use different currencies, and the industry is better regulated. its not great, but its better.
Funny that you should mention it though, someone said that same thing to me yesterday but again and again people dont realize they are not the same industries as they are run differently in terms of how things are done. (sort of in that they are still in the same country.)

It's not really surprising that two people would say the same thing to a comment like that. Any time you say "I prefer to buy from [city] over [country that city is in]" without offering any further context you're going to raise a few eyebrows.
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Edited by Rotsae - 4/1/14 at 11:53pm
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Intel , AMD and China are all lucky that IBM only builds server CPUs. Sucks for us though.
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You don't "steal" anything by reverse engineering it.

Um... Yes, Reverse engineering is stealing if you plan to take what you learned and use it directly to make a competing product. A completed Patented project is protected by patents so that someone who can figure out how it works, then duplicating the model in an attempt to produce a copy of the original for sale purposes is guilty of intellectual property theft. The entire reason for patents is to protect inventors from having there idea stolen, weather it is because the plans where made public or someone was able to figure out what they did and copy it. But I guess that for some the whole idea of intellectual property is like the idea that music or video games should have to be paid for, "Why pay for it if I can download it for free, or why pay a patent lease when I can buy the processor and analyze it myself, then make a copy. "

It's not stealing, the act of reverse engineering in itself is not illegal. Now the knowledge you obtain could be used for theft.
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Reverse engineering is the process of discovering the technological principles of a device, object, or system through analysis of its structure, function, and operation. It often involves taking something (e.g., a mechanical device, electronic component, software program, or biological, chemical, or organic matter) apart and analyzing its workings in detail to be used in maintenance, or to try to make a new device or program that does the same thing without using or simply duplicating (without understanding) the original.
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??
You don't "steal" anything by reverse engineering it.

Then do tell: Why aren't AMD reverse engineering Intel designs? Surely that would be easier than trying to compete e.g. Bulldozer.

Oh, wait, because it IS theft.

Yes that would be theft if they used the architecture. However if they use an idea and implement it themselves without actually using any of their code then that is not illegal.
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Then the military industrial complex? No sir, you're incorrect.

Than.

Than the military-industrial complex.






Than=comparison
Then=sequence in time


jFc

Thank you for the grammar correction. thumb.gif
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Intel , AMD and China are all lucky that IBM only builds server CPUs. Sucks for us though.

IBM used to make the PowerPC CPU's found in old Macintoshes. Look at what happened there.
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