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http://www.dailytech.com/US+GOA+40+Percent+of+Defense+Supply+Chain+Damaged+by+Chinese+Parts/article21937.htm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2058849/Chinese-counterfeit-electronic-parts-putting-U-S-military-risk.html
The US military supply chain is m-a-s-s-i-v-e.... I cannot think of any other organization in the world that has more suppliers and contractors. The militarty awards contracts to contractors who then hire subcontractors who then may hire further subcontractors.... Stuff can get slipped in.
Back on topic.... I've been hearing about Loongson for years. Haven't seen any benchmarks though.... just published raw performance numbers.

The auto industry may be as large perhaps.

It's like the inception of sub-contractors.
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Counterexample: Chinese High-Speed Rail. Multi-billion project that is Chinese-designed and Chinese-built. It is heavily corrupted (billions stolen) and has quality control issues (i.e. Accident and cover up that occurred this year)
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Another example: There is a big problem with the Chinese military developing high-tech weapons. The Chinese have massive supply chain issues. They cannot get reliable military-grade parts due to corruption. The military knows that Chinese companies will subsitute cheaper parts. Even the US military with tighter QC have issues with Chinese parts.

I can agree to this. The Shanghai Maglev is supposed to travel at 450-500km in both directions at best speed. However, I've been on it 3 times and the weather was perfect every day and it only reached 450km once. tongue.gif
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Haters gonna hate.
It's not things made in China that lack quality; it's NORTH AMERICAN branded things made in China that lack quality.
Because these American/International "companies" only want one thing: profit.
They can only boost price by so much, so what do they do? Cut cost.
They try to find the cheapest labour possible (in China, Thailand, India, etc.)
However, original legit Chinese companies on the other hand do not use the same "cheap" sources of manufacturing as these "American/International" companies do. Chinese brands that are not for export (only available in China) are manufactured by better companies with more expensive and reliable machines and labour and has much better quality than products we have here.
Conclusion? Americans are cheap.
P.S. I'm Canadian

You should look into China's attempts at making a car. The crash test are horrifying...



The human being they would pull out of that vehicle in real life would be unrecognizable...

Little comparison video someone made:

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All I can say is, China is the future.

All those great technologies we left behind in the relentless pursuit of personal greed and financial gain will be adopted and perfected in China.
 
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Hong Kong is in China...No?

Knowledge

Hong Kong became a part of the United Kingdom due to the First Opium War. In 1997 it was given back to the People's Republic of China. It's still fairly autonomous in most matters but it is part of China.
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You should look into China's attempts at making a car. The crash test are horrifying...

The human being they would pull out of that vehicle in real life would be unrecognizable...
Little comparison video someone made:

Lol, why do they even bother with air bags? rolleyes.gif Glad I drive a bimmer wink.gif

OT, it'll be interesting to see what comes of this, if anything. China certainly has the market for it.
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IBM used to make the PowerPC CPU's found in old Macintoshes. Look at what happened there.

Yeah and looked what happened here http://hothardware.com/News/IBM-Introduces-Worlds-Fastest-Processor-52GHz-Enterprise-Chip/ They only built the worlds fastest most powerful CPU.
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Hong Kong became a part of the United Kingdom due to the First Opium War. In 1997 it was given back to the People's Republic of China. It's still fairly autonomous in most matters but it is part of China.

Only till 2047. Same with Macao. And Taiwan will eventually give in.
 
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cauze of one reason:ati.amd can think all year long they rule the sad truth is amd is throttling ati financially.amd s futur lies at ati not amd.when amdo accept this and invest what iz needed for ati to black hole the whole computer market.this wont happen tho cause amd crew think they have what it take .they dont.ibm sAved them often now ati does miracal with what few ressource amd let go grudgingly for ati.
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Some people still think IBM, let alone ANYONE is capable of making a better computer chip than Intel?

Intel fabrication plants are 2 years ahead of EVERYONE including the "great" IBM.

In 10 years, maybe even 5 years, intel will be bigger than IBM.

IBM is still making 45nm cpus, and I havent heard anything about them starting 32nm soon.
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