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Some people still think IBM, let alone ANYONE is capable of making a better computer chip than Intel?
Intel fabrication plants are 2 years ahead of EVERYONE including the "great" IBM.
In 10 years, maybe even 5 years, intel will be bigger than IBM.
IBM is still making 45nm cpus, and I havent heard anything about them starting 32nm soon.

IBM is at 5.2 ghz on 45nm process. What speed was Intel at on 45nm process?
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IBM is at 5.2 ghz on 45nm process. What speed was Intel at on 45nm process?
Intel reached 3.5Ghz on the 45nm process.
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that is a good question.why they r&d in tower cpu (one on top of the other)one thing is sure something is going on.
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Haters gonna hate.

It's not things made in China that lack quality; it's NORTH AMERICAN branded things made in China that lack quality.
Because these American/International "companies" only want one thing: profit.
They can only boost price by so much, so what do they do? Cut cost.
They try to find the cheapest labour possible (in China, Thailand, India, etc.)

However, original legit Chinese companies on the other hand do not use the same "cheap" sources of manufacturing as these "American/International" companies do. Chinese brands that are not for export (only available in China) are manufactured by better companies with more expensive and reliable machines and labour and has much better quality than products we have here.

Conclusion? Americans are cheap.

P.S. I'm Canadian

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post #65 of 75
i have to agree with him.so.e insanity avail in Asia we prob wont ever get here.dont they have a do it all swiss smartphone work on all network or os etc.
Edited by drbaltazar - 12/16/11 at 6:24pm
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You should look into China's attempts at making a car. The crash test are horrifying...

.......................


those videos are old.. check out this one for example.. not saying they're making good cars, but at least ppl won't be misinformed by just looking at yours


and is this a joke?? a company that's been making cars for the whole century?? and of course, this problem had gone a long time ago



OP - I doubt the chinese can catch up this fast, but I don't mind having some good price/performance ratio chips on the market soon..
Edited by xxlap1xx - 12/16/11 at 6:56pm
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those videos are old.. check out this one for example.. not saying they're making good cars, but at least ppl won't be misinformed by just looking at yoursand is this a joke?? a company that's been making cars for the whole century?? and of course, this problem had gone a long time agoOP - I doubt the chinese can catch up this fast, but I don't mind having some good price/performance ratio chips on the market soon..

That is an entirely different company. I can't even find newer ones from Brilliance, which makes me think that they stopped testing them because of the bad rep.

Good for Geely though. Unfortunately Brilliance leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth.

And OUCH for that Ford pickup... That generation sold really well too.


Just looked up some cars from Geely out of curiosity... :::Sigh:::

Geely:
453
Mercedes:
213

Geely:
289
Rolls-Royce:
450

Makes me sad.
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Um... Yes, Reverse engineering is stealing if you plan to take what you learned and use it directly to make a competing product. A completed Patented project is protected by patents so that someone who can figure out how it works, then duplicating the model in an attempt to produce a copy of the original for sale purposes is guilty of intellectual property theft. The entire reason for patents is to protect inventors from having there idea stolen, weather it is because the plans where made public or someone was able to figure out what they did and copy it. But I guess that for some the whole idea of intellectual property is like the idea that music or video games should have to be paid for, "Why pay for it if I can download it for free, or why pay a patent lease when I can buy the processor and analyze it myself, then make a copy. "

Reverse-engineering is legal. That has been proven in court over and over already.
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That is an entirely different company. I can't even find newer ones from Brilliance, which makes me think that they stopped testing them because of the bad rep.
Good for Geely though. Unfortunately Brilliance leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth.
And OUCH for that Ford pickup... That generation sold really well too.
................
Yea that generation of F150s sold extremely well.. Ford is so lucky that youtube wasn't found until 2005 lol..

It's messed up how they kept copying designs, just trying to get their companies on track.. i wonder if they've even felt embarrassed about it

and fyi.. brilliance at least did something a few months after the first horrific crash test.. not good, but at least they tried

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Extreme improvement though, that's for sure. That is more on-par with what you'd expect a car to do.
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