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Well if next gen drops the tdp they will start moving in the right direction pretty quickly.

I'll give you AMD Crew some credit here: You never lose faith.
Well if they dont keep pushing, Intel will have no real reason to push the envelope => everyone looses. Im not hardcore amd, I will be getting IB but the gpu will be amd.
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Well, a lot of the really bad results come from extremely Intel favoring code/programs. Then again, they're still claiming that BD is an 8/6/4 core when it really is a 4/3/2 core CPU. rolleyes.gif
You can take an 8120, disable 7 of it's cores and it will still function. So assuming you call it a 4 core processor, you would consider it running on half of a core?
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I figure for it to be called a core, its needs at least the same performance as the previous gens cores... (core for core) Then again I know absolutely nothing about CPU architecture
Performance has nothing to do with what is considered a core. Phones have dual core processors that run a lot slower than PC's, they are still 2 cores and not ¼ cores.

Yeah I kind of would...it's really like a backwards design of the HT setup that Intel uses. From what I understand then it would have all of the module's resources to itself but that still wouldn't make up for the huge pipeline length and timing issues. But here's to hoping AMD can shorting the pipe and cut latency etc.
     
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LOL at the i5 2400 as reference! LOL.
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LOL at the i5 2400 as reference! LOL.

Huh. Why didn't they put a 2500K, and a 2700k?

I don't think the 2400 is unlocked like the FX processors. Plus, it's not a flagship model.
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Wait. Based on this graph, somehow a 200MHz boost makes this faster than the i5 2400 and the 1100T?

And poorly shooped newegg reviews?

If these are real, AMD needs new marketers or they have some serious explaining to do
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Newegg reviews are such a reliable source of information!

Of course. They are all have a high tech level. What's not reliable about that? rolleyes.gif I base all my buying decisions off of Newegg reviews. smile.gif
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Yeah I kind of would...it's really like a backwards design of the HT setup that Intel uses. From what I understand then it would have all of the module's resources to itself but that still wouldn't make up for the huge pipeline length and timing issues. But here's to hoping AMD can shorting the pipe and cut latency etc.

First...
It won't have all of the modules resources

Integer Clusters have dedicated datapaths...

Registers -> Schedulers -> Threading Logic -> Execution Units are all dedicated
What is shared between the cores is the Instruction Fetch and the Instruction Decode

The Instruction Fetch has a Pre-Pick to prevent bottlenecks....
The instruction decode can fuel 4 ALU ops, 4 AGLU ops, 8 FPU ALU/fAGU ops (2,2,4 is the amount each core can retire if the decoders are used properly then THERE IS NO SHARED RESOURCE bottleneck)

Second...
The Pipeline isn't absurdly long as you think

K10 -> 12
K15 -> 17
Sandy Bridge -> 14
Nehalem -> 15
Core 2 Quad -> 14
Pentium 4 -> 22, 31, 34

If Sandy Bridge is @ 3GHz
K15 -> 3.6GHz
K10 -> 2.6GHz(Might as well times this by 2 because it had a decoder->execution resource bottleneck which Bulldozer doesn't have)
Pentium 4 -> 4.7GHz, 6.6GHz, 7.3GHz
Edited by Seronx - 12/15/11 at 11:19pm
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