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I'm with Stren on this one...

And no, the rads in the bottom compartment have practically no effect on the main chamber at all. Just set the bottom rads to blow air to the same direction, and have few fans in the main chamber (be it front, top or back) moving air inside the case
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No problemo. Just throwing out suggestions. Pick and choose at will!
I suppose the question now is how you would set this up. It's nice to have a pressure system but with the radiators down bottom, does this affect the top of the case?
For example, should the front vents intake and the top vents outtake? Or if the radiator(s) are intaking, should all the upper compartment vents be outtaking?

What stren is suggesting (I think) is that the rads are in the bottom chamber seperated from the main mobo chamber. Stren would such outside air from the very bottom of the case into the rads and to be exausted to the sides with no impact to the mobo chamber.
I would suck air from the sides and push it out to the bottom but thats just because i'm better looking then stren. smile.gif

I think generally, to use fresh outside air to cool more then one chamber, or more then one rad, is bad practice. The second chamber or second rad is handicapped by the hot exaust of the first one.
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smile.gif moar matx
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Would something like this be possible in the near future?
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#1) Instead of the 120mm fan vent, an area built into the motherboard tray that would allow for a PSU next to the motherboard but above the PCI slots. Certainly wouldn't be the most aesthetically appealing when looking from the outside, but another option.
#2) Allowing for 8 PCI slots and moving the motherboard tray up to allow for a horizontally mounted PSU underneath the motherboard.
#3) I'm still not sure if this would fit or be smart since but only one PSU slot so the radiators can kind of sandwich it.
Thoughts?

I know others have made several comments on this, but I'll add my own.

Position 1 & 2 would require completely re-engineering the MB tray to handle the weight of a PSU, especially something like an AX1200 (which is likely to be used in a case like this). It would also obstruct the PCI slots making even a dual GPU system potentially difficult. On many boards, the PSU in position #1 would obstruct the CPU and could interfere with tubing running to the water block (and forget about air cooling). Of course, there are the aforementioned cosmetic issues. The 3rd position is more doable, but why? Even if everything fit, airflow would be less than optimum.

I like symmetry too, but realistically, you only see one side of the case at a time. If it were me, I'd run a 560 on the MB side (the "good" side) which will fill the space nicely and have a 360 + PSU on the far side which would keep the cabling out of view - JMHO smile.gif
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Thanks for the reply!

Chances are I will stick with a 480 on the "good" side mainly because GTs are some of the best static pressure fans out there (and I already own them and a 480) and perhaps purchase a separate 360 for the other side as stated by most.

Thanks again. Any word on a pre-order?
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What stren is suggesting (I think) is that the rads are in the bottom chamber seperated from the main mobo chamber. Stren would such outside air from the very bottom of the case into the rads and to be exausted to the sides with no impact to the mobo chamber.
I would suck air from the sides and push it out to the bottom but thats just because i'm better looking then stren. smile.gif

I think generally, to use fresh outside air to cool more then one chamber, or more then one rad, is bad practice. The second chamber or second rad is handicapped by the hot exaust of the first one.

Yeah ideally you want cool air for each chamber, and try and avoid your rads ever getting air from another radiator. It's not the end of the world, but why not set it up to get maximum performance.

The reason I prefer my setup to Pepe's is because I'm thinking about what happens to the air afterwards. If you push air out the bottom, chances are it may get recirculated and sucked back in the radiator as it rises away from the case. I doubt there's much of a difference though, I just prefer mine because I'm ulgier than Pepe wink.gif
     
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The reason I prefer my setup to Pepe's is because I'm thinking about what happens to the air afterwards. If you push air out the bottom, chances are it may get recirculated and sucked back in the radiator as it rises away from the case.

Actually I like your thinking better. Now I have to think of a way to install a filter that would fit the bottom of the case. It's going to be a lot less restrictive with a larger surface area.

But oh man! Is it going to be a PITA to change/clean that filter!
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Actually I like your thinking better. Now I have to think of a way to install a filter that would fit the bottom of the case. It's going to be a lot less restrictive with a larger surface area.
But oh man! Is it going to be a PITA to change/clean that filter!

Yeah I gave up on trying to filter, I just put quick disconnects on the radiators. The side mounts make it easy to take the rads in and out for cleaning.
     
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Yeah I gave up on trying to filter, I just put quick disconnects on the radiators.

Why did you give up? Are filters too restrictive for your taste? Or not aesthetic?
I was thinking about getting the Silverstone ones or the DEMCiflex ones.

Got any experience/feed back on those?

But maybe this is bordering on thread hijacking ..... I should take this to PM or an other thread maybe.
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The amount of awesome idea for case designs on caselabs forms are impressive I recon a 'for fun' case design comp would be awesome... just an idea! biggrin.gif ( I know its a tad of topic)
    
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