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Truly a piece of art wubsmiley.gif
I don't know how "final" that prototype is, but I'm a bit concerned about the size of the hole for routing the PSU cables through to the backside...
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The SM5 is the same height as the M8/M10?

Mounting the PSU in the mobo area increased the height of the SM5?
Did CL consider making a M8 style mATX case, i.e. M5? The shorter the better for me.

Depending upon price, if the SM5 is $250 or the SM8 is $300 I'll still buy them.
Any amount more and I'll have to consider the M8/M10 (more case for the money).
Edited by WorldExclusive - 8/11/12 at 6:36am
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Truly a piece of art wubsmiley.gif
I don't know how "final" that prototype is, but I'm a bit concerned about the size of the hole for routing the PSU cables through to the backside...

Thanks! smile.gif How does the holes size concern you?
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Thanks! smile.gif How does the holes size concern you?


I think he means, the aperture for the PSU single grommet is a bit small, I think that’s what he means or maybe positioning. I would agree but then am use to the 650D and the two fairly large PSU grommets one positioned directly over the other. But what do I know, never had a CaseLabs, it's an entirely different beast.wink.gif

I only have a single video card, but am using both grommets, although there is still room left in each one as this photo illustrates. With a modular PSU its cool to be able to run the upper row thru an upper grommet and lower row thru a lower grommet, even if it splits the 24pin, it’s cool looking, but not necessary.
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The SM5 is the same height as the M8/M10?
Mounting the PSU in the mobo area increased the height of the SM5?
Did CL consider making a M8 style mATX case, i.e. M5? The shorter the better for me.
Depending upon price, if the SM5 is $250 or the SM8 is $300 I'll still buy them.
Any amount more and I'll have to consider the M8/M10 (more case for the money).

The SM8 will be priced in the mid $300's (and the SM5 won't go below $300.00) Its material and labor costs aren't much different than the M8, so there won't be a dramatic price difference between them. For pure functionality, the M8 wins, but it's design is too revolutionary for many, who prefer a more conventional tower design, hence the SM8. The SM8 does take advantage of things we've learned since the M8 was launched: reversibility and a more "mod friendly" (screwed together) design to facilitate break down.
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Truly a piece of art wubsmiley.gif
I don't know how "final" that prototype is, but I'm a bit concerned about the size of the hole for routing the PSU cables through to the backside...
Thanks! smile.gif How does the holes size concern you?
Well, lets say that someone has a rig with a few rads, a few hard drives, maybe fan controller and bluray, 3-way GTX680's and a mobo that requires at least 24pin and 8pin (maybe even 8+4 or 8+8). That would mean one thick 24pin cable, one or two 8pins for mobo, 3 or 6 cables for GPUs, probably 2 cables with sata connections, at least one cable with 4pin molex connections... That poor little hole could get a bit crowded, especially if that someone is into sleeving his PSU.
What I'm saying is that the hole looks small for that someone with that many cables. biggrin.gif
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Got it - thanks! Fixed smile.gif
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Well, lets say that someone has a rig with a few rads, a few hard drives, maybe fan controller and bluray, 3-way GTX680's and a mobo that requires at least 24pin and 8pin (maybe even 8+4 or 8+8). That would mean one thick 24pin cable, one or two 8pins for mobo, 3 or 6 cables for GPUs, probably 2 cables with sata connections, at least one cable with 4pin molex connections... That poor little hole could get a bit crowded, especially if that someone is into sleeving his PSU.
What I'm saying is that the hole looks small for that someone with that many cables. biggrin.gif

Yeah sleeving can make things bulky. Stupid sleeving (stares at box of mdpc, then stares at unsleeved power supplies) mad.gif
     
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Yeah sleeving can make things bulky. Stupid sleeving (stares at box of mdpc, then stares at unsleeved power supplies) mad.gif
Hahah yeah, you've got that ahead of you...
The reason I noticed that the hole looks small is that when my friend decided to sleeve his cables, the routing holes were nowhere near "full". After we got the job done and wrestled with the damn case and cables for a few hours, we realized that only thing that's going to make the cables fit is a power tool that can cut metal.
Cutting the holes bigger wouldn't be a huge deal for me if it were a 80€ steel case, but over 300€ worth of hand-crafted perfection? Lets just say that I would rather run the cables some other way instead of grabbing a power tool.
So what I suggest is: grab an AX1200 and start pushing cables through the hole. If it's tight, make it bigger. If they fit and there's some room to spare, still make it a bit bigger smile.gif Individual sleeving can make the cables unbelievably big, like twice the size or more.
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Got it - thanks! Fixed smile.gif


You guys are the experts, but to take on the Obsidian 800D and 650D in the market, I would use that aperture size you have anterior or forward of the motherboard cut out, the larger oblongs and space one over the other for the PSU, high and low for the left side right side reversibility. And the round hole seems a bit like a Magnum, not dated but not new. Only saying this because for 18months have been looking for a replacement or “next chassis” and no one out there is offering anything I like other than CaseLabs new tower designs, the Merlins. So gee if you can change the proto design that quickly and easily, please give the user more cabling options. I want the SM series to be a huge success and for me, a first time water loop.

The Magnum hole/grommet/cabling design was from a chassis where the PSU was never seen in the primary window view. With the Merlin towers the cabling into the PSU is very evident in the window view, and should be aesthetic to the user. If the round hole is a signature thing, part of CaseLabs style, I get that.smile.gif

Sorry, just my humble O.
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