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Then I wonder why AMD claim first true 8 cores...

I highly doubt AMD made that statement.

Intel's Beckton (Nehalem) was released in March 2010:
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Nevermind, I must have forgotten they mentioned "native".

 
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So 14 to 17 min, and 36.4 to 43.3...

 

17.6% gain in min, and 15.9% gain in the screen.

 

Nice gains, but bulldozer was clearly so far behind you're wasting at least $350 with that 6990.

 

I wouldn't get caught up in Windows calling it a 4c8t chip, it just makes sense since performance wise skipping every other core produces better results just like it does with Intels chips.

 

 

HT provides about a 5% increase per core, AMD's design provides 70% of the performance of the first core, it's not a 4c/8t chip.

 

 


AMD called it the first DESKTOP eight core chip, and it is. AMD had 12 core server chips to match Intels eight core chips last gen.


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Strange how Saint's Row benefits so much more than BAC. More CPU intensive game I guess? If more games show results like SR3 that's pretty cool. Cinebench result is rather underwhelming though.
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I get a CPU bottleneck with my Q9550 at 3.4 Ghz in Serious Sam 3. Given that you said you could, can you benchmark that game ? Thanks!
 
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Black Ops was a seriously CPU bound game.. might have to install that and see the difference in fps there.
and then quickly uninstall it again.. lol
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You have to wonder how AMD is going to react now that this update shows BD for what it is (I'm not bashing) which is their attempt at a HT style CPU. Will this cause a backlash as many people notice/realize that they don't actually have an 8core CPU (by the old/accepted definition of a core IIRC)? I defended BD before it was released because I bought into the marketing thinking AMD couldn't weather a fallout. But to be honest I should have understood what it was. The thing I want to know is why they did pretty much the same mistakes that Intel made with netburts (massive pipe length etc.)?

Either way, I'm hoping this helps in some way for those with BD. Maybe the OP should investigate if Core Parking will now also show up as an issue since windows seems to be treating BD as a Hyper Threaded CPU.
     
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Maybe someone can benchmark a CPU limited dual-core game like Starcraft 2.
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I think some tests that would clearly show the gain would be super pi, cinebench on one core, 3dmark 2001/2003, and most of the games...
looks like a good improvement overall thumb.gif
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Run a multithread benchmark with 4-6 threads and monitor core affinity....

updated, not sure that's what you wanted to see.
    
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Nevermind, I must have forgotten they mentioned "native".
Beckton is 8 full cores that can process 16 thread via HT.

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AMD called it the first DESKTOP eight core chip, and it is. AMD had 12 core server chips to match Intels eight core chips last gen.
If AMD marketing said that, then it make more sense.

BTW, Intel has a Xeon decacore (Westmere-EX) as well.
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I think some tests that would clearly show the gain would be super pi, cinebench on one core, 3dmark 2001/2003, and most of the games...
looks like a good improvement overall thumb.gif
Some 4-6 thread benchmarks while monitoring core affinity would really demostrate how the thread scheduler is operating now. Instead of sequentially assigining threads, it should now place similar workloads on the same modules.

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updated, not sure that's what you wanted to see.
Images blocked at work.

The thread scheduler should be placing similar threads on the same core instead of sequentially.
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