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post #11 of 21
I wouldn't buy parts a little bit at a time either, I made that mistake with my second rig. Hooked up the motherboard 4 months after I bought it and it was DOA. 30 day support from newegg was gone, and Gigabyte just kept sending it back to me still broken claiming to have replaced it. It wasn't a new board -.- .
Sandy Bridge is more than enough for gaming when OCed, X79 is better but you have to decide if it is really worth the premium for it. You will get much better gaming performance by spending money on graphics. Unless you have an unlimited budget stay with SB, and make sure to buy a K so you can overclock.
Oh, and you can OC the graphics and memory on pretty much any motherboard, though good luck pushing the memory at all, they are usually binned quite well, if you want faster RAM your have to buy the more expensive kits, though for gaming anything over 1866mhz is a bit silly. 1600mhz is more than enough.
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post #12 of 21
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thats my fear. i guess i should wait. but i'll have this behemoth case in my closet for a while. i wil buy everything else and leave the mobo and cpu for last.
post #13 of 21
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hey whats the difference between the extreme and the sabertooth? the x79 mobos
post #14 of 21
The Rampage IV Extreme/Formula is for extreme overclocking. You can overclock just fine on a Sabertooth too, but the Sabertooths are more geared towards reliability, reflected by their 5-year (?) warranty.
post #15 of 21
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ahh thank you for all the help. it means alot to me. i hope i make my first rig to be powerful and with the right of mind. i hope i make it great and well to show off here and make you and everyone proud of this noob when he makes it.
post #16 of 21
sorry, I was about to post right before the maint.

Blade, I really suggest not building your rig as you are describing. I assume you are gaming, There is really 0 need for anything other than a i5 2500k unless you have a sli/crossfire config that makes your CPU a bottleneck (which is quite hard to do).

Right now there is pretty much a set in stone config of what a "gaming rid" should have. right off the bat I can tell you a i5 2500k is your most cost effective, yet at the same time most powerful solution for your requirements. the "best" ram right now for a sandy bridge would be 2 dimms of 1866 ram closely followed by 1600, you will not notice the difference. As for GB, 8gb is more than enough and 2x4gb sets of 1866 (G. Skill sniper 2x4gb 1866 cas 9) runs about $50 which is a RIDICULOUS deal.

So,
Ram: G. Skill Sniper 2x4GB 1866 CAS 9
CPU: i5 2500k

Now you will need a Mobo. The only real difference in "high end" Mobo's right now is capability of PCI 3.0 (higher bus speed) which will be enabled by a Ivy Bridge CPU once they release. This will increase GPU bandwidth and maybe make things a little bit faster, if your GPU config can actually touch the current limitations on PCI 2.1.

The Top options for chipsets are P67 and Z68. The differences are pretty straight forward once you get past the mumbo jumbo. The P67 does not have integrated graphics but enables overclocking. Its standard level competition is the H67, H67 has on-board graphics enabled but you CAN NOT OVERCLOCK. Z68 is the sweet spot, you get both. Z68 has integrated graphics so it can be run without a GPU (but if your gaming you will want a dedicated GPU which cancels this "benefit") as well as has overclocking capabilities. Z68 also has SSD caching which I haven't touched yet on mine. SSD caching uses your SSD as "RAM" for your HDDs, more or less. P67 is the best cheaper option as you don't really gain anything from the premium price of a Z68 chipset.

The other thing to look for is the scaling of the pci lanes. you will want 2 x8 lanes available at minimum. This is literally the available bandwidth of your graphics cards. if your motherboard runs at 2 x4 lanes you will run the risk of a bottleneck.

ASUS and ASRock are the top manufacturers of motherboards no questions asked. Other companies have contenders but It's not worth messing with success, after all we are trying to get you a overclockable gaming rig.

Motherboard choices worth looking into

If you want to see the most successful motherboards head over to the sandy bridge overclocking club and check out what people have had the most success with. Remember to keep in mind pci 3.0 if that is something you want, as well as looking for at least 2 x8 pci lanes, and of course it having the rest of the connections you desire.

Last you will obviously want a GPU. This will be based on what games you want to play and what you expect out of your machine in the future.

Feel free to ask more questions thumb.gif
post #17 of 21
I avoid ASUS like the plague after how they treated me whem my Formula III died. I would suggest ASrock, MSI, or ECS over ASUS or Gigabyte.
What happened with the RMA is that they sent me a badly damaged board as the replacement, then tried to charge me for the repairs, I threatened to go to the BBB, so they took it back, bent it up some more, and sent it right back again. After that I did go to the BBB, but nothing was resolved as ASUS ignored the complaint. I still have the board. mad.gif
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I avoid ASUS like the plague after how they treated me whem my Formula III died. I would suggest ASrock, MSI, or ECS over ASUS or Gigabyte.
What happened with the RMA is that they sent me a badly damaged board as the replacement, then tried to charge me for the repairs, I threatened to go to the BBB, so they took it back, bent it up some more, and sent it right back again. After that I did go to the BBB, but nothing was resolved as ASUS ignored the complaint. I still have the board. mad.gif

The sucess rate of their mobo's is pretty undeniable though based on how well some perform (sorry about your fluke), Compared to MSI (which REALLY need to only stick to GPUs) they are a god sent. ASrock is what I went with and they have a failure rate too, it is just the way it works. Lets all be honest here, there is a LOT of stuff going on on a motherboard. Remember the success rate of CPUs is why we have so many options of those as well. some just aren't suitable for the level of quality they are supposed to be sold at and binned down, due to physical appearance of a motherboard this is more difficult.
post #19 of 21
I know, there are always DOAs, so with motherboard makers its the support that counts big for me. I've had both Giga and Asus both pretty much refuse to give me a working board and I wasted about $100 each to keep sending the motherboards back to them. Asus has or at least has had a spotty past from what I've seen. My board came with a busted ethernet port, and the RAM slots were a little buggy, though it was my PSU that finally killed it and I've known a few people who've gotten ASUS boards with dead RAM slots or PCI slots.
I haven't been here long enough to really get to know how each brand works, so I can only recommend brands I haven't had issues with personally, or that are highly recommended around here.
I'm really impressed that ECS offers a 3 day RMA turnaround on their boards, seeing as ASUS and Gigabyte each took about a month turnaround for RMAs.
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bigeyedsmiley.png ... I have never even heard of that company before. 0 idea about ti's overclocking performance... but dear god that color layout would have been magical in my current build... drool.gif
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