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This is what I think I might get him. It's basicly a 570 no? not too far off at all.

I'm sure that's a fantastic card as well. And it's much closer to the 570 than the 560.

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Nvidia GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Core Review: GF110 On A Diet
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I have a GTX 275 on my old gaming rig. I had to go all the way down to low settings to get really playable game-play. If he digs BF3 he'll really appreciate the upgrade.
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I really like the 560Ti 448 core. Ofcourse now what burdens me is the age old question. Wait for next series of Nvidia (GK-100) or not. I know my brother wants to wait for Ivy before even considering a CPU upgrade.. may be the same deal with GPU. Hmmm
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post #14 of 49
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Originally Posted by Zero4549 View Post

only if you like cell-phone resolutions or 20fps... neither is playable to most pc gamers.
a 560ti would indeed be a decent upgrade, but it's not gonna get ultra.

I do ultra just dandy with my 448 @ 1600x900 TYVM
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I do ultra just dandy with my 448 @ 1600x900 TYVM

1 - 560ti is NOT the same as a 560ti 448core, in any way, shape, or form other than the name.
2 - If you are playing on ultra, at that resolution, you are NOT getting 60 minimum FPS. That may be playable to you, but it is NOT by any means ideal even for standard 60hz monitors.
3 - 1600x900, while a totally different aspect ratio, IS still indeed a phone-like resolution, pulling ahead of the 720p Galaxy Nexus by a mere 38400 pixels and falling behind my very common, very cheap, 4 year old monitor by a comparatively staggering 2304000 pixels.

Please, do not spread misinformation.
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1 - 560ti is NOT the same as a 560ti 448core, in any way, shape, or form other than the name.
2 - If you are playing on ultra, at that resolution, you are NOT getting 60 minimum FPS. That may be playable to you, but it is NOT by any means ideal even for standard 60hz monitors.
3 - 1600x900, while a totally different aspect ratio, IS still indeed a phone-like resolution, pulling ahead of the 720p Galaxy Nexus by a mere 38400 pixels and falling behind my very common, very cheap, 4 year old monitor by a comparatively staggering 2304000 pixels.
Please, do not spread misinformation.

well for your information it is ultra, resolution does not affect the quality aspect of settings, 2nd of all I am holding 51FPS average, that is more than playable and quite ideal actully as the game was built around 30FPS not 60FPS, that plays a factor into it one that more people would be wise to actully research. Also the most common resoultion today on the steam survery which is pretty representative is still 1280x1024 which is compareable to my current 1600x900. What you need to do is knock yourself down a notch and get off your high horse, because your standards of what is what is quite frankly arrogant, misinformed, and your demonor and personality are rude and very crude in nature.
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well for your information it is ultra, resolution does not affect the quality aspect of settings, 2nd of all I am holding 51FPS average, that is more than playable and quite ideal actully as the game was built around 30FPS not 60FPS, that plays a factor into it one that more people would be wise to actully research. Also the most common resoultion today on the steam survery which is pretty representative is still 1280x1024 which is compareable to my current 1600x900. What you need to do is knock yourself down a notch and get off your high horse, because your standards of what is what is quite frankly arrogant, misinformed, and your demonor and personality are rude and very crude in nature.

What are you talking about? Of course resolution effects quality and 51fps average is just that, an average. This isn't console gaming, it's PC gaming and the standard is minimum 60fps or whatever the screen refresh rate and the game might of been made to be played on consoles too but they have horrible input lag because of it's it. The guy you were replying to, he did not doubt that you are running on ULTRA settings (heck I can too)but more that the graphics card can't handle those settings at a constant 60fps which is a standard, to gamers at least. Having a 120hz screen and GPU power to run a game at 120fps would completely make the game feel like a new game. Drop your settings down and tell me you don't feel a difference.

OP: A 560TI would be a great upgrade from a GTX275, I'm currently looking to upgrade as well, though I'm looking for a GTX480.
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What are you talking about? Of course resolution effects quality and 51fps average is just that, an average. This isn't console gaming, it's PC gaming and the standard is minimum 60fps or whatever the screen refresh rate and the game might of been made to be played on consoles too but they have horrible input lag because of it's it. The guy you were replying to, he did not doubt that you are running on ULTRA settings (heck I can too)but more that the graphics card can't handle those settings at a constant 60fps which is a standard, to gamers at least. Having a 120hz screen and GPU power to run a game at 120fps would completely make the game feel like a new game. Drop your settings down and tell me you don't feel a difference.
OP: A 560TI would be a great upgrade from a GTX275, I'm currently looking to upgrade as well, though I'm looking for a GTX480.

Have and no not really, I can play FPS just fine at 40FPS most people can actully. The human eye can't track much over about 45-50 frames per second thats a medical fact, and if you doubt that then why in the early days was 30FPS considered 100% playable by everyone, Quake1 and Quake2 getting 30FPS was hard to do on the hardware of the day, and people played that to death and it was alot more fast paced. The 60FPS rule is a flawed statement and its simply your notion not fact, when your eyes cant actully see it that fast. I can promise most aka 99% of the people on planet earth wouldn't notice a diffrence between about 45FPS and 60FPS for the simple fact the normal human eye can't
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Have and no not really, I can play FPS just fine at 40FPS most people can actully. The human eye can't track much over about 45-50 frames per second thats a medical fact, and if you doubt that then why in the early days was 30FPS considered 100% playable by everyone, Quake1 and Quake2 getting 30FPS was hard to do on the hardware of the day, and people played that to death and it was alot more fast paced. The 60FPS rule is a flawed statement and its simply your notion not fact, when your eyes cant actully see it that fast. I can promise most aka 99% of the people on planet earth wouldn't notice a diffrence between about 45FPS and 60FPS for the simple fact the normal human eye can't

Where, may I ask, does this factual medical evidence come from? No offence, but anyone who actually knows anything on the subject knows it's a well known, frequently disproved urban myth.

No one is saying YOU cant enjoy your game at your settings. That is ENTIRELY subjective. Ignorance is bliss and you're clearly full of it.

What we ARE saying is that factually, what you are saying is untrue. It is up to the end user to decide if something is good enough for them - you have no place telling them what is and is not satisfactory to someone else. You can only tell the facts how they are and let them judge for themselves.

Personally, as part of the vast majority of people who are physically capable of seeing a difference between 30, 60, even 90 and 120 fps, and the minority of people who actually know how to understand and put to words what they are seeing, I can tell you I would be pissed to no end if someone convinced me to put my money into buying something that would give me the best experience and I was only reaching 50 fps. I don't really care what is playable to someone else on someone else's monitor. I only care what is satisfactory to ME, on MY monitor, which means 1920x1200 at 60fps minimum. If I cant run ultra at those specs, i'm not going to be happy with ultra. If I put money into my computer specifically to play at ultra, then I'm not happy with that investment.

Quite frankly, if you don't want to be told you're wrong, don't make strong assertions without supplying proven factual support. You're telling me to get off my high horse, and yet you're doing the same thing I am - arguing a perspective. In this particular case, my perspective is backed by science and common sense, yours is backed by urban myth and subjective testimony.
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