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I will be using two reservoirs in a single loop design, but only one reservoir at any single time. I have one reservoir that I had made which is quite unique and enjoyable to watch, but during certain times i need it to be very quiet while on conference calls and I will switch to my alternate reservoir. I've been told that i dont need to reservoirs, but I figured a second couldnt hurt, even if it didnt help. Either way, I need to bypass the one primary reservoir and after toying with the idea for a while, this is the only way I can think to do it without using a second pump.

Any better ideas?

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That will somewhat work. In that scenario, you would want two ball valves, one before each res. You will also want to make sure that only one of them is open at a time, to avoid the scenario of "path of least resistance" and possible loss of system pressure. Unless the pump top allows for two inputs, you will also need a Y there as well. With some testing, you may find you also need ball valves after each res. Problem is, if your top, custom res is that large, the system may end up sucking liquid from it. Ultimately it may not be an issue though as it would only fill up the primary to capacity, so as long as it's sealed, it won't be an issue.
 
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You'd need two ball valves; one before each res. If you had the water going through both res's at the same time, you'd loose pressure. That seems like it'd work. Just so like what AngryButcher said doesn't happen. (Water getting sucked out of the one res)

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That will somewhat work. In that scenario, you would want two ball valves, one before each res. You will also want to make sure that only one of them is open at a time, to avoid the scenario of "path of least resistance" and possible loss of system pressure. Unless the pump top allows for two inputs, you will also need a Y there as well. With some testing, you may find you also need ball valves after each res. Problem is, if your top, custom res is that large, the system may end up sucking liquid from it. Ultimately it may not be an issue though as it would only fill up the primary to capacity, so as long as it's sealed, it won't be an issue.
+Rep thanks for the detailed info.

The primary res is pretty large when running is not fully filled with water, so there will be air present in the res (even though it is sealed). i could see the issue you mention being a problem. Would dding a second pump and using an an alternate loop through Y connectors at each input / output be a better way to go?

I want to be able to easily switch from one res to another, without opening the case. With one ball valve I can do this by mounting it on a piece of polycarbonate and mounting it to a fan port. Two would be a bit more difficult.
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You'd need two ball valves; one before each res. If you had the water going through both res's at the same time, you'd loose pressure. That seems like it'd work. Just so like what AngryButcher said doesn't happen. (Water getting sucked out of the one res)
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+rep...did not think about that, thanks.
    
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A second pump is not necessary.
 
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A second pump is not necessary.

I meant instead of having ball joints, would it be easier to use a second loop that paralleled the first using y connectors at the rad, cpu, and res? I would have the pumps on a bypass switch so only one would run at a time. I dont mind a single ball joint, but two will be hard to reach, if I can achieve the same effect electronically, that would be great.
    
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If the point you are going after is just to let one heat up and then switch to another, you would be better off incorporating both res' into your loop. Your setup will have better heat capacity (more liquid = higher heat capacity) and you (i think) will have less of a headache trying to get the ball joints opening and closing. I just wouldn't want one of them to get stuck shut or open and cause excess fluid in one part of your loop.
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I meant instead of having ball joints, would it be easier to use a second loop that paralleled the first using y connectors at the rad, cpu, and res? I would have the pumps on a bypass switch so only one would run at a time. I dont mind a single ball joint, but two will be hard to reach, if I can achieve the same effect electronically, that would be great.

Even with Y connectors, the fluid would take the path of least resistance. Switching the pump in use would not affect the flow direction if they were in reasonable positions in the loop. That said, if your pumps were directly on a leg of each Y connector, you could get the liquid to mostly go in the res you want, but it wouldn't stop flow into the unwanted res due to suction at the Y's joint.
 
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Got it. Ok, well I guess two ball joints then. I wish I could find electric actuators to put on a switch, but no luck. Thanks a lot or the help!.
    
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