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post #1 of 37
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2012 Potential setup

Above is the wishlist I have set up for the new rig I want to build to replace my aging machine. Issue I'm currently having is the closed loop cooling solution is looking like it's going to come up short on being able to cool the CPU with OC settings. From my research the 3930k are OC stable up to 4.8ghz with Prime95 stress testing. At those speeds the Cooler I have listed in the wish list will not be able to keep up with the CPU to the tune of needing the CPU to be throttled back to 4.5ghz. Admittedly this is still a beast of a OC even with the throttling.

Any suggestions on a cooling solution that would work for me, that accomplishes 2 things. The first being that I keep the case I have selected and the second being something that can still fit inside the case.

I have reasonable knowledge with Cooling kits. My current rig use to use a Reservator XT to cool the CPU and 2 9800GTs. That is, until I discovered that the coolant concentrate included in the kit by Zalman is absolute crap. The end result was 2 dead pumps and 1 fully 90% calcified CPU Block the CPU survived somehow and I changed it over to an air cooled machine.

Speaking of which I've heard that the board on that list will fit a LGA 1366 air mount. Blasphemy for this section of OC.net I know...
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post #2 of 37
you would be far better off with a XSPC water cooling kit with a 240 rad at least if you even what to think about 4.8ghz overclocks. other than that, a nice sized air cooler would do well like a Thor's Hammer with the LGA2011 fittings.
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post #3 of 37
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Where would the 240 fit in my case, am I mistaken on needed 2 side by side 120's to mount that to?
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post #4 of 37
Change the case perhaps to a Cooler Master 690 Adv II. I've got a couple 3930K rigs right now, all in 690 cases and it's solid.

In fact, I'm setting up one of them with a new XSPC Raystorm 240 kit with D5 pump as we speak! The other has a Corsair H100.

I can tell you this though, the H100 does provide respectable temperatures on the hexa cores. I had mine at 4.7GHz with temps around 70C.
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post #5 of 37
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The wonders of Youtube... found a guy who documented the process of upgrading his Azza case to fit a 240 rad where the top 230mm fan is. So looks like I can run that set up. Only question left is if I go this route would getting a controller be something I should look into and if so any ideas on one's that would be good?
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Rosewell Lighting 1000w Azza Solano 1000R 
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Rosewell Lighting 1000w Azza Solano 1000R 
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post #6 of 37
You could do better on two items for your 2012 build, I would never recommend a Rosewill PSU and you could go for Crucials M4 SSD! For around the same price you could get an Enermax Revolution 85+ 1020W. Please have a look at those read and write speeds, almost twice as fast.

Crucials M4 SSD

Performance
Sustained Sequential Read
Up to 500 MB/s (SATA 6Gb/s)
Sustained Sequential Write
Up to 260 MB/s (SATA 6Gb/s)





The Intel SSD

Performance
Sustained Sequential Read
Up to 270 MB/s
Sustained Sequential Write
Up to 165 MB/s
post #7 of 37
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Changed the SSD to your suggestion, thank you there. The Rosewell I picked for several reasons. The first was that it was a 80+ gold cert PSU (wanted a gold or higher) next was that it was 1kw and finally that it was able to fit the case theme for this build. Maybe I just suck at researching the Enermax but I couldn't find a single site that said whether the PSU lit and if it did what color it lit to. I will say though the case fan that comes with that PSU is SWEET! Is there a site that sells those with Red LEDs?
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I7-3930K Asus Rampage IV Extreme EVGA GTX 580 Classified G Skill Ripjaws  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M4 SSD Samsung Black Blueray/DVD Rasa 750 240 rad Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 bit 
PowerCase
Rosewell Lighting 1000w Azza Solano 1000R 
  hide details  
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Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M4 SSD Samsung Black Blueray/DVD Rasa 750 240 rad Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 bit 
PowerCase
Rosewell Lighting 1000w Azza Solano 1000R 
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post #8 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Border201 View Post

Changed the SSD to your suggestion, thank you there. The Rosewell I picked for several reasons. The first was that it was a 80+ gold cert PSU (wanted a gold or higher) next was that it was 1kw and finally that it was able to fit the case theme for this build. Maybe I just suck at researching the Enermax but I couldn't find a single site that said whether the PSU lit and if it did what color it lit to. I will say though the case fan that comes with that PSU is SWEET! Is there a site that sells those with Red LEDs?

No you only get one with the PSU, Enermax is crazy not to start manufacturing them or have someone else make them!
post #9 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by Systemlord View Post

You could do better on two items for your 2012 build, I would never recommend a Rosewill PSU and you could go for Crucials M4 SSD! For around the same price you could get an Enermax Revolution 85+ 1020W. Please have a look at those read and write speeds, almost twice as fast.
Crucials M4 SSD
Performance
Sustained Sequential Read
Up to 500 MB/s (SATA 6Gb/s)
Sustained Sequential Write
Up to 260 MB/s (SATA 6Gb/s)

The Intel SSD
Performance
Sustained Sequential Read
Up to 270 MB/s
Sustained Sequential Write
Up to 165 MB/s

Why not just jump on the best then? smile.gif

Kingston HyperX 120GB SSD:
550 Read, 520 Write

Boots my system in 11 seconds wink.gif
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post #10 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by bruflot View Post

Why not just jump on the best then? smile.gif
Kingston HyperX 120GB SSD:
550 Read, 520 Write
Boots my system in 11 seconds wink.gif

The reliability of those Sandforce based SSDs aren't desirable right now, Sandforce has messed up so bad that another company just bought SandForce and is restructuring the company. LINK


Quote:
The market is changing and the dominance of SandForce based SSDs seems to decrease. OCZ for example just released a product with their proprietary Indilinx controller and a handful of companies started selling products based on that Marvell controller. And that's an interesting dynamic to witness in the technology channel alright.

It is for good reason though, SandForce royally screwed up with the 2000 series versus firmware issues. And I really do want to make very clear that all latest firmwares are stable, for any vendor. But that doesn't mean that the word isn't out and thus the reputation of that controller is simply dented, keeping potential consumers away. The rise and shine of the Crucial M4 series is the perfect example of that, people purchasing the 100% stable product albeit compromising a little on performance.

Corsair made a wise decision as well, they will not stick to just one SSD based controller, and as such they just launched the Performance Pro series SSDs. In 128GB and 256GB capacities these drives will be unleashed just before the Christmas season is starting.

Honestly, after I managed to do the first series of tests I was still a little flabbergasted, this SSD is incredible.

A complete hit, and with a lot of people not trusting SandForce anymore (which we disagree with) this might be the next best SSD we have tested in a while. Have a peek, after which we'll dive into the technology behind it and obviously we'll present you a nice phat performance overview.

Edited by Systemlord - 12/18/11 at 9:58pm
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