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From what I understand, it's a very nice processor that just doesn't run x86 and so is slightly crippled, software-wise... and price-wise.


While each processor is more efficient at traditional number crunching etc than current desktop CPUs, the price makes it almost unworkable for 99% of potential clients, as does the specialist software required.
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It a different instruction set. So everything you use currently will not work on it. By that I mean you can't even install Windows and probably most versions of linux.
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There are Itanium versions of Windows Server and Unix. But it's not x86 so it only runs specialized software or bytecode languages.
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I don't think it's possible to have a discussion about itanium on OCN without in developing into "zomg so much coarz" and "I want to put this under liquid helium" and "DAT CACHE."

yup and dont forget "can it play crisis" or "OMG think of the folding!!!!11!!!1!1"
    
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There are Itanium versions of Windows Server and Unix. But it's not x86 so it only runs specialized software or bytecode languages.

I know that. Thats why I specifically pointed out everything that he probably would use. Users like on this board and lower have no use for Itanium. Just like using SCSI in your home desktop. You can use it, but the amount of money you would need for it wouldn't make sense.

Itanium are business class processors. And frankly anyone who buys it just to overclock and thats assuming you can overclock them, either has way more money than they need or they don't have a clue.
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I know that. Thats why I specifically pointed out everything that he probably would use. Users like on this board and lower have no use for Itanium. Just like using SCSI in your home desktop. You can use it, but the amount of money you would need for it wouldn't make sense.
Itanium are business class processors. And frankly anyone who buys it just to overclock and thats assuming you can overclock them, either has way more money than they need or they don't have a clue.

SCSI is actually pretty cheap, it's just pointless. If you want speed you get an SSD, if you want space you get a multi-TB SATA drive. There's no room for 74GB 15kRPM hard drives anymore.
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You mean besides the $100k system price point? There's also lack-luster performance, enough power wasted to have your box double as a grill and uh, the name is kinda stupid. Itanium has been crap for years. The only customers are businesses who won't (or can't) move off HP-UX.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium

 

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When first released in 2001, Itanium's performance, compared to better-established RISC and CISC processors, was disappointing.[4][5] Emulation to run existing x86 applications and operating systems was particularly poor, with one benchmark in 2001 reporting that it was equivalent at best to a 100 MHz Pentium in this mode (1.1 GHz Pentiums were on the market at that time).[6]

 

Damn. I knew Itanium was bad but I didn't know it was *that* bad...sheesh.

 

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When first released in 2001, Itanium's performance, compared to better-established RISC and CISC processors, was disappointing.[4][5] Emulation to run existing x86 applications and operating systems was particularly poor, with one benchmark in 2001 reporting that it was equivalent at best to a 100 MHz Pentium in this mode (1.1 GHz Pentiums were on the market at that time).[6]

Damn. I knew Itanium was bad but I didn't know it was *that* bad...sheesh.

That's its performance when emulating x86. Native performance should be much better. Emulation is almost always orders of magnitude slower than what the hardware is natively capable of.

Not that I'm trying to defend Itanium at all, I know very little about it.
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Damn. I knew Itanium was bad but I didn't know it was *that* bad...sheesh.

It's not "bad," but it does have a very narrow (and narrowing) market slice. I'm not really sure what it's used for and why HP continues to stand by it. I'm sure they have a reason.
    
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That die size is gigantic.
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