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As stated, you have to get better CPU cooling, and if you're going to keep that board you should get some air directed at the power phases, and expect throttling and/or for it to die at some point.

And you don't have to go intel next time, you have to buy the right hardware next time if you want to OC. That means a board with proper power phases/cooling, proper cooling for the CPU, quality power source etc etc. That's just how it is if you do this.
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I'm getting these mosfet cooler
http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?categoryID=3048
& I'll only oc after getting a new cooler & those above mosfet cooler.
Thanks guys,now I'm running @ stock.
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63C is not bad, AT ALL. Your computer is NOT blue screening because of the CPU's temps. However, the cpu's temps are not the only thing you have to consider. Motherboard parts get hot too, specially if you have a cheapo mobo or something.

If your statement is this one then you understand much about Phenoms as i do about internal military defense network systems. Phenoms have a max safe temp of 62C, the thermal shutdown is usually set at 65C. Also Phenoms tend to get unstable if they go over 55C on load, so your best bet is to start over again, get a decent cooler and run it with way less voltage. Anything over 1.5v will kill your chip way faster than it is supposed to.
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If your statement is this one then you understand much about Phenoms as i do about internal military defense network systems. Phenoms have a max safe temp of 62C, the thermal shutdown is usually set at 65C. Also Phenoms tend to get unstable if they go over 55C on load, so your best bet is to start over again, get a decent cooler and run it with way less voltage. Anything over 1.5v will kill your chip way faster than it is supposed to.

Eh? Shutdown at 65, I had a C2 955 chip that hit 70+ stock, but generally yes the 55* rule is a good one to follow. I don't know about 1.5 volts killing a chip, I see many people do it and I was running 1.488 4.3 GHz for almost a year with no issues on a C3 955. The biggest problem with AMD's is most of the boards have bad VRM's for overclocking. I personally would recommend an 890FX or 990FX board for OC'ing with 8+2 or better power phases, and not an MSI.
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dark, the only wrong statement he made in that post was temps at 63 are fine. heat does not cause bsod. heat causes restarts and sometimes, program shutdowns.
bsod's are caused by not enough vcore, not enough cpu-nb volts, ram timings too tight, ram speeds too high, cpu-nb speeds too high, ht link speeds too high, sometimes cpu-nb speeds too low, not enough ram voltage, the list goes on. thats why everyone needs to get the stop code and track down the reason for it.
thermal shutdown is not anywhere near 65. people have ran way over this and not shutdown.
it depends on the chip itself whether or not it gets unstable over 55. MOST phenom 2's begin to lose stablitlty at higher temps once overclocked. some lose it around 55. some sooner and some later.
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Eh? Shutdown at 65, I had a C2 955 chip that hit 70+ stock, but generally yes the 55* rule is a good one to follow. I don't know about 1.5 volts killing a chip, I see many people do it and I was running 1.488 4.3 GHz for almost a year with no issues on a C3 955. The biggest problem with AMD's is most of the boards have bad VRM's for overclocking. I personally would recommend an 890FX or 990FX board for OC'ing with 8+2 or better power phases, and not an MSI.

Mine is set at 65C by default, i tested it.
1.5v doesnt kill the chip. Makes it die faster that it is supposed to, this means that instead of being working in great conditions for 10 years, it could survive about 7 or less...
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dark, the only wrong statement he made in that post was temps at 63 are fine. heat does not cause bsod. heat causes restarts and sometimes, program shutdowns.
bsod's are caused by not enough vcore, not enough cpu-nb volts, ram timings too tight, ram speeds too high, cpu-nb speeds too high, ht link speeds too high, sometimes cpu-nb speeds too low, not enough ram voltage, the list goes on. thats why everyone needs to get the stop code and track down the reason for it.
thermal shutdown is not anywhere near 65. people have ran way over this and not shutdown.
it depends on the chip itself whether or not it gets unstable over 55. MOST phenom 2's begin to lose stablitlty at higher temps once overclocked. some lose it around 55. some sooner and some later.

Heat causes CPU to loose stability. Stability loss leads to bsod's, therefore heat can cause bsod.
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So how will a thermalright true black or xigmatek thor hammer work?
I mean will i keep my cpu cool enough?
On my 4+1 phase mobo(newly purchased,had a very tight budget but a quality mobo)
I run my chip 3.8ghz stable.
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dark, the only wrong statement he made in that post was temps at 63 are fine. heat does not cause bsod. heat causes restarts and sometimes, program shutdowns.
bsod's are caused by not enough vcore, not enough cpu-nb volts, ram timings too tight, ram speeds too high, cpu-nb speeds too high, ht link speeds too high, sometimes cpu-nb speeds too low, not enough ram voltage, the list goes on. thats why everyone needs to get the stop code and track down the reason for it.
thermal shutdown is not anywhere near 65. people have ran way over this and not shutdown.
it depends on the chip itself whether or not it gets unstable over 55. MOST phenom 2's begin to lose stablitlty at higher temps once overclocked. some lose it around 55. some sooner and some later.

I think about all restarts ARE BSODs, when you have "automatically resart" checked under Startup and Recovery in windows.
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@Aniket: avoid lynx-india. Their service sucks & they have much more negative feedback than positive feedback.
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@Aniket: avoid lynx-india. Their service sucks & they have much more negative feedback than positive feedback.

Its the only site from where I can get mosfet coolers,moreover I dont think I need support for just a mosfet cooler,its from swiftech & I expect it to be a quality product.
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