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Poll Results: How much Ram would you recomend for a new gaming computer build?

 
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post #261 of 269
12+.
As cheap as RAM is, kinda stupid to overpay for a "fast" 8GB kit when you can get a larger 12 or 16 GB kit for just as much thats slightly slower i.e. 1600 MHz. Theres hardly any real world benefit from RAM faster than 1600. However with more RAM you can multitask MUCH better and faster.

My current rig has 16, my last rig had 12. Quad and tri channel kits respectively.
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First of all, almost every game on the planet is currently 32 bit, and the very few that aren't (32 bit=limited to 2 GB of memory usage), are Large address aware. As far as I know, Battlefield 3 is 32 bit, and LBA aware, which limits its usage to either 3 gb or 4 gb (I forgot how much LBA's maximum allowed is). So you aren't going to see any games use more than 4 GB yet. Now the old 1366 systems with 3x2 GB for 6 GB, are going to be pushing it here, but you're still going to have a fine gaming experience with 8 GB of Ram. Just because a new socket comes out and some people have spent $800 (!!!) dollars for 64 GB of 1600 mhz Ram, doesn't mean that games' Ram requirements suddenly doubled overnight.

Now that being said, RAM is as cheap as it's ever going to be...it simply can't get any cheaper than this, so you might as well just max your slots (except the 64 GB users, since 8 GB dimms are 3.5x as much as 4 GB dimms), and just go the full 12 GB (6x2 GB) or 16 GB (4x4 GB) at these prices. Never before as Ram been *THIS* cheap in history, compared to what games use, versus what you can buy for $70.

Back when DDR/DDR2 was this cheap, XP was still the main OS, and you were limited to 2 GB for program usage. Never before has 4 times the amount of Ram a game used (4 GB-->16 GB) cost under $80...ever.

With 8 GB of 1600 mhz Ram as low as $30-$35 if you find a sale, how can anyone not upgrade? (the Triple channel kits are a bit more awkward but still dirt cheap).
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Originally Posted by Falkentyne View Post

First of all, almost every game on the planet is currently 32 bit, and the very few that aren't (32 bit=limited to 2 GB of memory usage), are Large address aware. As far as I know, Battlefield 3 is 32 bit, and LBA aware, which limits its usage to either 3 gb or 4 gb (I forgot how much LBA's maximum allowed is). So you aren't going to see any games use more than 4 GB yet. Now the old 1366 systems with 3x2 GB for 6 GB, are going to be pushing it here, but you're still going to have a fine gaming experience with 8 GB of Ram. Just because a new socket comes out and some people have spent $800 (!!!) dollars for 64 GB of 1600 mhz Ram, doesn't mean that games' Ram requirements suddenly doubled overnight.
Now that being said, RAM is as cheap as it's ever going to be...it simply can't get any cheaper than this, so you might as well just max your slots (except the 64 GB users, since 8 GB dimms are 3.5x as much as 4 GB dimms), and just go the full 12 GB (6x2 GB) or 16 GB (4x4 GB) at these prices. Never before as Ram been *THIS* cheap in history, compared to what games use, versus what you can buy for $70.
Back when DDR/DDR2 was this cheap, XP was still the main OS, and you were limited to 2 GB for program usage. Never before has 4 times the amount of Ram a game used (4 GB-->16 GB) cost under $80...ever.
With 8 GB of 1600 mhz Ram as low as $30-$35 if you find a sale, how can anyone not upgrade? (the Triple channel kits are a bit more awkward but still dirt cheap).

While all very true, getting 6x2GB is kinda silly when you can get a 3x4GB kit for $60 after MIR. So might as well go the extra mile and get 24GB. Overkill? definitely! But as both of us have stated, at this price point, it'd be silly not to.
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post #264 of 269
Ive have been on this forum for years now and I thought that surely now words like "overkill" "too much" "unnescessary" would have been banned and carry severe consequences.

This is OCN! There are no limits!
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post #265 of 269
Agreed. thumb.gif

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post #266 of 269
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The point is to reach the level where the game can pull as much ram as it needs, not limited by the system. There is a certain point where programs won't adjust in accordance with your ram level, no matter how much more you add. With 16gb of ram at 5760x1080 Bf3 never pulls more than ~5.5gb. "You got to unleash the beast by letting it pull what it wants."
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People lets look again. Memory usage, whether video, or system, scales...
The more you have the more you use.
I am using 4GB of system RAM, and 1.3GB of video RAM.
These screens show around 3GB system RAM, and 900MB VRAM being used.
Plenty of evidence showing 4GB is enough.
To elaborate further. Lets toss two more sticks into my rig for a total of 8GB, and a 2GB GPU.
Guess what? I'll be using around 6GB system, and 1.5GB VRAM.

Edited by Acefire - 11/23/12 at 10:59pm
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Oh, and here are some ram benchies from that old kit before I upgraded to 16gb.

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post #268 of 269
Considering that I just upgraded to 16gigs of RAM...



...

I was lookin for why mine were so limited to Acefire's numbers then I noticed that he's running 2234Mhz while I'm on old 1600Mhz. Well played mate well played. Best I could ever hope to achieve are 2000Mhz OC speed. thumb.gif

But I would definitely recommend to have as much as you want now. I had rec'd 8Gig but that was before 8Gig sticks were yet available. Now I would seriously recommend having 16Gig over the two lanes. For me that maxes out my system. Games definitely zippier since I upgraded too. cheers.gif

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AMD platform is really limited in bandwidth. And my CPU is running at 5 gigahertz.Those 2 factors really impacted score. the best I could ever do with my AMD 1100t was around 12000
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