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Originally Posted by roy956
temps shown on thermal tool, speed fan are not the same as it shows in bios.

My temp shown on bios is 40-45C
on thermal tool is steady at 54C
soeedfan 38C

since i have an almost 1GZ overclock on stock cooling i really need to know the right temp on cpu to avoid damaging it.

You shouldn't go over 60c under max load, and to be really safe I would keep it under 55c on max load.


What CPU cooler you have depends on the design of your case and how it channels airflow. If your case has a good (120mm)intake in the front and good exhaust, the cooler I am using is good, so are most of the similar design coolers like the Scythe Ninja, and Infinity. If your case lacks good airflow, a Big Typhoon with a hole in the side panel cut for it is your best bet.....
post #32 of 76
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146025
this is my case. it has 2 120 mm fans and i will put another one in front
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post #33 of 76
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146025
this is my case. it has 2 120 mm fans and i will put another one in front
I think you should check out either of these heatsinks:

Noctua NH-U12 (~$44) - http://www.xoxide.com/noctua-nh-u12-cooler.html
Tuniq Tower 120 (~$60, if you can find in stock) - http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Tuniq+120+Tower&num=100&hl=en&hs=GTW&lr= &safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&sa=X&oi=froogle&ct=title
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro (~$17) - http://www.provantage.com/arctic-acfzp7~7ARCT004.htm
Thermaltake Big Typhoon (~$42) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106061

I personally say get the Noctua but that's just my opinion.

Here are some fans you should consider if you get either of those heatsinks:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811999344
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811999122
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811999029
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post #34 of 76
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I am confused about my temps.

Speedfan says around 44C
TAT around 53C
Bios around 42C


and i have reached a fsb wall again 400mz
I cannot go past 2.8 stable, Sytems reboots by itself or closes programs.
i already ordered a zalman cooler with artic silver
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post #35 of 76
Quote:
Originally Posted by roy956
I am confused about my temps.

Speedfan says around 44C
TAT around 53C
Bios around 42C


and i have reached a fsb wall again 400mz
I cannot go past 2.8 stable, Sytems reboots by itself or closes programs.
i already ordered a zalman cooler with artic silver
As I said before, TAT is the correct temperature.

BIOS has incorrect temperature sensors. The TAT reads directly from the CPU.
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post #36 of 76
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Originally Posted by lightsource
The TAT reads directly from the CPU.
Correct. TAT is taken from the thermal digital sensor diode built directly into each CPU. A load temp of 53C in TAT is very good in this case.

The Core2 contains a DTS (Digital Thermal Sensor) on each core and are the only thermal readings directly comparable to other cpus with on-die thermal diodes (P4, K8, etc) which softwares use with algorithmic calculation methods. Since there are no in socket thermistors built into Core2 there is no other method to read thermal outputs and all other software that attempts to read will do so incorrectly. Of course, this includes the BIOS.

Speedfan and other softwares use an older method of on die reading since they idle/load raise/lower too fast to be otherwise. These softwares were created before DTS technology and use a calculatory method using TCaseMax to return temperatures.

Thus they read TCaseMax/TJunction and the core temperature to return a value. The software thermal tools will have to be updated to respond differently with Core2 than any other CPU. The Intel Thermal Analysis Tool was created for Core2 and thus is a jump ahead of any other software.

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post #37 of 76
So the best cpu temp tool for Core 2 Duo's is TAT? WHat about AMD's?
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ok thank you guys but i cannot go past 400 fsb. What should i raise to be stable at 2.8ghz. I am running at 395 fsb which is 2765 but once i want to go over 400 fsb it becomes unstable in windows and also in superpi.

Should i change cpuvoltage? fsb volt? pci volt? Ram volt?
and what confuses me is that TAT shows me when i have the cpu over 2.8 temp actually goes down. 2.8ghz temp at 51......2.76 temp at 53 or 54.


weird huh?
was this cooler a good choice?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118223
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post #39 of 76
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So the best cpu temp tool for Core 2 Duo's is TAT? WHat about AMD's?
AMD...

I can't exactly remember the program that reads AMD Temperatures JUST for and, it is kind of like TAT but...

This works well too: http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/121
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post #40 of 76
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Originally Posted by roy956
ok thank you guys but i cannot go past 400 fsb. What should i raise to be stable at 2.8ghz. I am running at 395 fsb which is 2765 but once i want to go over 400 fsb it becomes unstable in windows and also in superpi.

Should i change cpuvoltage? fsb volt? pci volt? Ram volt?
and what confuses me is that TAT shows me when i have the cpu over 2.8 temp actually goes down. 2.8ghz temp at 51......2.76 temp at 53 or 54.


weird huh?
was this cooler a good choice?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118223
What are your voltages set to?

You should have (G)MCH +.1, FSB +.1, MEM +.3-4 at least

As for the heatsink, it's a good heatsink all around but it's much better if you've got a fan almost directly on it either sucking air from it or blowing air into it.
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