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My computer died, and SWTOR just began. Need quick help to get me back into the game.

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Greetings all,

I thought I would clean out my case to ensure I had no dust issues for SWTOR. Sadly when I put the case back together the computer stopped working. I spent a day trouble-shooting the issues, when my wife finally gave me the "thumbs up" ( thumb.gif ) to purchase a new computer....so long as I kept it within budget.

I've already exceeded the budget, but not by too much (the monitor was purchased before the crash) and I've spent the last few days poring over the different tech forums. I would love to get OC.net's denizens take on this and let me know where I could shave or if it's just right.

Please take a look at my signature - I spent an hour putting everything I'm proposing to purchase in there.

Outstanding issues:

1.) Still don't know if the Video Card is the right one. I could knock off $200.00 dollars and still get a very good card....but the wife tells me this rig needs to last me for awhile, so perhaps I should keep this monster where its at?

2.) Need a solution for the cooling. I wanted the Hybrid 212, but I don't think it will fit with 4 DDR3 chips installed. The other option is the H100, but I really don't want to do water cooling - I have bad luck, and with it my entire computer would be flooded on day 2 of having water cooled.


Thank you for taking the time to help me out and happy holidays!

Cheers,
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I would go water cooling as the H100 and the others in its series are self-contained and dont require refilling etc. Also corsair has great customer service. Iv heard that, in the unlikely chance that they fail, corsair has replaced any damaged parts with higher quality parts.
    
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I would go water cooling as the H100 and the others in its series are self-contained and dont require refilling etc. Also corsair has great customer service. Iv heard that, in the unlikely chance that they fail, corsair has replaced any damaged parts with higher quality parts.

Thanks for the response, mate! I'm a little paranoid regarding water cooled solutions. I know it doesn't happen often, but I'm worried that I'll be "that guy" who gets the one cooler with a critical mechanism failure AFTER it warms up. Then all this equipment is for nothing. So, while I greatly appreciate the feedback, I think I'm going to want to see if there is an air cool solution that works with this setup. If there isn't, then I might just have to take the plunge and go water cool. Yikes.

I'm not sure what part of the system you are refering to when you speak about Corsair....I didn't order any, so are you saying I should have? The SSD or RAM ?

Thanks and Cheers,
post #4 of 14
You should be ok with the ram as the 212 is not as big as other coolers, but there should be a compatibility list on the CM site.

As far as closed loop systems go the manufacturer(corsiar/antec) will replace any/all parts that get damaged in the event of a leak.

The 580 is a awesome card, but a bit overpriced in my opinion. My 6970 plays every game I can throw at it on max settings, lots of AA is the only thing that slows down frame rates(in BF3) and is a couple hundred cheaper.
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He means, if a corsair h series water loop leaks and damages components, corsair will replace them for you. Period. Sometimes with even better parts.
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Get a gtx 570 or an amd 6970. Or, if you can manage to wait, amd releases new high end cards next month that should be amazing if you want them, and drive down prices on the older models.

Get an i5 2500k, not an i7. If there is a microcenter near you you can get the 2500k for 180.

Get 8gb of ram, not 16. Hardly anyone needs 8, much less 16.

Your psu is too much unless you plan to crossfire or sli. A good 600w psu will do you fine. Check the ocn psu program to determine how much wattage you need. I also like silverstone, so good choice there I feel.
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What are you going to be doing with this machine? If you're just planning on gaming no need to get the 2600k as you wont get any benefits out of it, the 2500k will be a better buy and I hear it beats the 2600k in some games. I had the Hyper 212+ and at the time I had the G.Skill flares which had monstrous heatsinks, due to work I needed more ram and got Ripjaws X good budget ram and small heatsinks let me install them on the first 2 Ram slots, fit perfectly. I now have the Antec 902 though which is a closed loop and like how it makes the PC look a bit cleaner than the giant heatsink on the MB. 16GB is a lot of ram though, are you using applications that are memory hungry? If not just get a single kit then you don't have to worry about the ram slots. As for the graphics card I'm in the same boat, was going to order a GTX 580 but decided to go for a GTX 570 DCII from Asus and SLI down the road. The small performance gain hardly seems worth the price premium you pay for having the top of the line card.

Just some things to think about while you decide, over all it looks like a very nice build. Good luck mate! thumb.gif


Edit: Didn't notice the PSU, I agree nico. Get a good 650Watt PSU instead should be able to handle your entire system there with everything overclocked with ease. Something like a 80+ Gold SeaSonic, Antec, or Corsair unit would be my choices.
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Thank you for your quick and informative responses. This is exactly what I was hoping for and will post back after I make the final selection. Looks like I got some more research to do. Huge thanks guys! OCN comes through again!

Cheers,
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Just got done re-reading the thread, and excellent insight guys.

Regarding the RAM - I just keep thinking about all the times I've ever said, "Why would I ever need that much?!?" only to chuckle 2 years down the line as whatever "huge" amount had become the standard. The wife is starting to look at her own CAS settings, so I have to anticipate my discretionary funds will be disappearing in the near future. As such, I probably should get as much RAM as possible so I can simply get the 570 (you guys are right on the money, though I'm split between the Nvidia or ATI) later and put it in an SLI.

I still have several pieces from my old rig that I don't think are damaged, for example:



[*] Radeon 5870 HD
[*****]GDDR5 interface with 153.6 GB/sec of memory bandwidth
[*****]PCI Express 2.1 x16 bus interface
[*****]DirectX® 11 support
[*****]Shader Model 5.0
[*****]DirectCompute 11
[*****]Programmable hardware tessellation unit
[*****]Accelerated multi-threading
[*****]HDR texture compression
[*****]Order-independent transparency
[*] NZXT PP-600 PSU
[*****]1 x Main connector (20+4Pin)
[*****]1 x 12V(4+4Pin)
[*****]8 x peripheral
[*****]6 x SATA
[*****]1 x Floppy
[*****]2 x PCI-E ((This could be a problem if I want to SLI - so I'm thinking to upgrade....then again, maybe just another single card in the future....damn decisions...))


Of course, I was experiencing strange graphic shutdowns.....SWTOR would work, but then I would be forced to do a warm boot to get the computer unstuck. The screen would flip to a solid color with vertical lines (very jagged) sometimes. Other times the game would freeze, then reload as if it had recovered. So maybe the video card is going and I need a new one anyway.

Anyway, thanks for the help you've given me a great place to start looking. Any other recommendations are more than welcome.

Cheers,
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Your Hard Drive(s) and RAM should be fine too. Can't guarantee it. and I am not sure what you had as a rig before your issues. Remember that any money you can save using your old parts the more you can put into other areas of your new build.
2600k is overkill and not worth the price over the 2500k if you aren't going to use it to its fullest potential.
8GB RAM should be plenty.
I would go with the ASUS ENGTX570 DCII/2DIS/1280MD5. Probably one of the best GTX570 on the market and SLI later if you get the chance.
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