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I've recently made an investment to grab a second EVGA GTX 580 3 GB GPU and to begin the movie towards stereoscopic 3D via ASUS VG278H - 27-Inch 16:9 3D full HD 1080p LCD Monitor - Black. I'm truly excited and thrilled to be putting such glorious hardware to use in my gaming PC.

Despite my giddiness, I'm growing concerned about what the temps. will look like with having this second card in place and the eventuality of the triple-monitor in 3D strain in the future. Currently I can run BF3 on ultra everything and temps stay at around 60 (This is only the one GPU atm, the other card hasn't been installed yet), though I doubt it'll stay nice and low with a second card in the mix. Now the wiser part of me says to invest in water cooling. However, I feel adaequet cooling can easily be attained via proper airflow and wise fan investments. My following setup is as follows:

Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 EVO

***NOTE*** The GTX 580 SLI setup will be used in PCIe 2.0 x 16 (Dual at 8x/8x mode) SLOT # 2 as well as.....
PCIe 2.0 x 16 [grey] in 8x

Case: CM HAF X Full-Tower

Location Fan Brand

Front:
230 x 30 mm Stock
Top:
200 x 30 mm
200 x 30 mm
Side (windowed)
200 x 30 mm
Rear
140 x 25 mm H80 Radiator Fans
VGA Fan Dock
120 x 25 mm Wasn't planning to utilize
VGA Holder
80 x 15 mm

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Essentially everything is stock CM fans other than the two H80 fans working on the radiator (positioned in the rear as shown above).

I've purchased a Lian Li BS-07 140mm Fan PCI / Graphics Card Cooler - Black (BS-07B) that will easily fit at the bottom or between my two GTX 580's.

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MY QUESTION TO YOU IS:

I'd like to replace those stock fans I've mentioned above with some superior fans to keep the airflow nice and consistent and thus keeping those cards as cool as possible with an airflow system. Again I realize water cooling would be far superior, but that is not an option I'm considering at the present time.

I tried to include as much information as I thought would be needed, please advise if you need more regarding my system. Thank you in advance to any opinions and ideas you all have to offer!
Edited by Zetsou - 12/18/11 at 5:09pm
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post #2 of 9
your problem isn't in airflow. HAF stands for High Air Flow. your problem will be dust buildup which HAF is also known for.... there have been a few discussion threads on air filter solutions for HAF, i'd suggest you look into that.
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I'm well aware of my case and its issues on the front. My question was strictly airflow related. I'm looking to update the aforementioned stock fans with some higher grade ones, keeping in mind I'll be shoving dual GTX 580s in there and running stereoscopic 3D.

Thanks for your input I suppose, but I'm looking for more info about fan brands/type, not my case or filters.
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the fans are okay, if you want to replace the fans just try and find higher rpm ones, just make sure you have a good fan on the side to deliver air to your GPUs, you could also attach a fan on the back of your hdd cage to push air towards your GPUs
   
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Originally Posted by Zetsou View Post

I'm well aware of my case and its issues on the front. My question was strictly airflow related. I'm looking to update the aforementioned stock fans with some higher grade ones, keeping in mind I'll be shoving dual GTX 580s in there and running stereoscopic 3D.
Thanks for your input I suppose, but I'm looking for more info about fan brands/type, not my case or filters.

what i mean is there isn't really any reason to replace the stock fans. the HAFX should be able to handle 580gtx SLi w/ stock fans. the amount of airflow built into the HAFX far exceed the cooling requirement of any components following the ATX specification. if you want to get colder then what the HAFX can deliver, you really should look into a liquid solution. for the HAFX, your problem is more noise/dust related, not cooling capacity related since it's already blowing more then 300CFM's into components that requires far less then that to keep cool. if your goal is excessive overkill, then liquid is more of the direction you should look at.
post #6 of 9
i am kinda planning the same and ordered another gpu either.
one word to your 200mm stock fans, they are great, believe me. you dont need to update those. they are "quiet" enough and pushing a good amount of air.

as you can see i own the haf-x either.
the only thing i am going to change when my 2nd gpu arrives is to replace the 120mm fan used in the air conduct. that is the thingy you can attach at the HDD cage. sucking air from the front blowing 230mm through the HDD -> over the GPUs to the back.

i just bought a Scythe Ultra Kaze DFS123812L-3000 from Ebay for 2€...brand new, lucky auction winner wink.gif
133.60CFM only used to blow the heat rising up from the cards towards the back.

its the loudest fan so i am going to connect it to my fan controller, struggling it down when i dont play a game.

hope this will give you an idea
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i am kinda planning the same and ordered another gpu either.
one word to your 200mm stock fans, they are great, believe me. you dont need to update those. they are "quiet" enough and pushing a good amount of air.
as you can see i own the haf-x either.
the only thing i am going to change when my 2nd gpu arrives is to replace the 120mm fan used in the air conduct. that is the thingy you can attach at the HDD cage. sucking air from the front blowing 230mm through the HDD -> over the GPUs to the back.
i just bought a Scythe Ultra Kaze DFS123812L-3000 from Ebay for 2€...brand new, lucky auction winner wink.gif
133.60CFM only used to blow the heat rising up from the cards towards the back.
its the loudest fan so i am going to connect it to my fan controller, struggling it down when i dont play a game.
hope this will give you an idea

Now that is a brilliant idea! I didn't think to use that attachment (you are talking about the one that comes with the HAF X case, right?) on the HDD cage... I think the PCI dual slot fan will work well either between or underneath the second card but that other fan you mentioned will be great at pushing the lingering hot air above right on out (the toughest spot I'm having issues with when it comes down to it).



Thank you: chinesethunda, justanewguy and psyclum!!!


psyclum, do you suggest using additional filters than and removing that thin material they supplied with the case itself? If so, who would you recommend I buy those from?


To clarify, this is what you guys were talking about, correct? 337



or I could use the VGA Bracket.... 605

Picture above isn't my unit.
Edited by Zetsou - 12/19/11 at 8:28pm
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i wouldnt put more filters, i would just use the filter thats already there or not use filters and just clean your rig when it gets dirty, because even with filters, it will get dirty and then you are left with the tiny dust that gets stuck on it that you can't blow off with a compressor
   
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post #9 of 9
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Originally Posted by chinesethunda View Post

i wouldnt put more filters, i would just use the filter thats already there or not use filters and just clean your rig when it gets dirty, because even with filters, it will get dirty and then you are left with the tiny dust that gets stuck on it that you can't blow off with a compressor

Yeah. I've been a diligent cleaner since I built the rig. I just got a little conscientious of it after what psyclum initially posted.

Honestly with minimal upkeep, the thing stays pretty clean. I really think I made an excellent investment thus far and I can't wait to add my second GPU on Christmas day (was a gift from my parents, they're fueling my nerdy ways). I even bought MYSELF a sexy Christmas gift and got a wicked 3D monitor: ASUS VG278H - 27-Inch 16:9 3D full HD 1080p LCD Monitor - Black

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Just imagine... in three months (need to save a bit for the other two) I'll be running Stereoscopic 3D and gaming like a boss!

I just hope my 1200w PSU will be enough for the two GTX 580s and everything else. I suppose I'll find out soon enough.

Thank you all once again, for all your input. Your time and attention to my quirky questions has been very much appreciated. As always, I love OCN and its community!
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