Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Sound Cards and Computer Audio › mmx 300 or pc 360...opinions please
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

mmx 300 or pc 360...opinions please

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
So currently i am using A900s with an STX. And i love the sound! But, I want to start using my A900s with other equipment and would like a dedicated mic (I had a zalman clip on, worked well but I hated it). So I am currently looking at pc 360s, then I stumbled upon the mx 300s and they intrigued me. I love the closed back sound, but am open minded to open, but never experienced them (I dont have to worry about disturbing others. Has anyone used these headsets? Looking for some input please. Not worried about pricing, looking for overall quality for dedicated gaming, but would use it for light music on occasion. Mostly play fps, some rts and mmo.
Redrum
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 @ 4 Ghz Asus Rampage III Extreme Asus 580 DCII OCZ 12gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Agility Corsair Force GT 7200 HDD 7200 HDD 
Optical DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
8x Asus Bluray Windows 7 Home 64, Ubuntu 11.04 Samsung 27" LCD Ducky MX Reds 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 850 Corsair 800D Steel Series Sensei Steel Series 9HD 
AudioOther
Asus Xonar STX A900 (music/FPS), G930 (MMO/vent) 
  hide details  
Reply
Redrum
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 @ 4 Ghz Asus Rampage III Extreme Asus 580 DCII OCZ 12gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Agility Corsair Force GT 7200 HDD 7200 HDD 
Optical DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
8x Asus Bluray Windows 7 Home 64, Ubuntu 11.04 Samsung 27" LCD Ducky MX Reds 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 850 Corsair 800D Steel Series Sensei Steel Series 9HD 
AudioOther
Asus Xonar STX A900 (music/FPS), G930 (MMO/vent) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 11
I got some mmx 300 for my birthday last year and use them exclusively for gaming. Sometimes music and video and they work great! Def will want a good amp or sound card to power them. My main cans are some grado 325s but they do not offer the bass and comfort for long gaming sessions as the mmx 300 does. Plus you can customize them the way you want. I hate my clip on mic as well!

They seem to be the best priced option for serious headphone gaming, whilst there are other headphones out there I find these to fit my requirements while being better than any razr product or other $100-150 gimmic headphones. These are true audio quality cans.
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 
Glad to hear they sound great. Any idea how they sound in comparison to A900s? They are the only good set of cans I have ever owned.
Redrum
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 @ 4 Ghz Asus Rampage III Extreme Asus 580 DCII OCZ 12gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Agility Corsair Force GT 7200 HDD 7200 HDD 
Optical DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
8x Asus Bluray Windows 7 Home 64, Ubuntu 11.04 Samsung 27" LCD Ducky MX Reds 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 850 Corsair 800D Steel Series Sensei Steel Series 9HD 
AudioOther
Asus Xonar STX A900 (music/FPS), G930 (MMO/vent) 
  hide details  
Reply
Redrum
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 @ 4 Ghz Asus Rampage III Extreme Asus 580 DCII OCZ 12gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Agility Corsair Force GT 7200 HDD 7200 HDD 
Optical DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
8x Asus Bluray Windows 7 Home 64, Ubuntu 11.04 Samsung 27" LCD Ducky MX Reds 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 850 Corsair 800D Steel Series Sensei Steel Series 9HD 
AudioOther
Asus Xonar STX A900 (music/FPS), G930 (MMO/vent) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 11
Please please please stay away from headsets, they're just overpriced headphones with a cheap mic attached the majority of the time. For example the MMX 300s you've mentioned are basically DT770s with a microphone attached. IIRC the 770s can be bought for about 160 bucks, and the MMX 300s are 350 bucks (no explanation needed). If you're willing to spend that much then get a pair of AKG K 701s, they sound incredible for the price and in regards to detail reproduction, tonal balance, and sound stage, they blow what you've suggested out of the water. I have a pair of these with an STX atm and I absolutely love them for music and gaming. Directional sound is absolutely brilliant, and I can hear all sorts of details I couldn't hear before with my "gaming headset". Now keep in mind they are very balanced in terms of how they sound so they sound great on all genres, but if you need a little more of something just use an equalizer. For a microphone I'd recommend a ModMic, which is meant for use on audiophile headphones such as these. Here's a link:
http://www.amazon.com/AntLion-ModMic-Attachable-Boom-Microphone/dp/B005IT9P3G

Hope I've helped biggrin.gif
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5-2500K ASUS P8Z68-V PRO EVGA 560 Ti G.SKILL Ripjaws 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
WD Caviar Black Crucial M4 HP 1270I 24X SATA Multiformat DVD Writer CM Hyper212+ 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win7 Professional x64 SP1  BenQ XL2420T Steelseries 6GV2 Thermaltake Toughpower 850w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM HAF-X Logitech G400 Puretrak Talent Asus Xonar Essence STX w/ LME49720HA-TO99 
Audio
AKG K 701 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5-2500K ASUS P8Z68-V PRO EVGA 560 Ti G.SKILL Ripjaws 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
WD Caviar Black Crucial M4 HP 1270I 24X SATA Multiformat DVD Writer CM Hyper212+ 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win7 Professional x64 SP1  BenQ XL2420T Steelseries 6GV2 Thermaltake Toughpower 850w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM HAF-X Logitech G400 Puretrak Talent Asus Xonar Essence STX w/ LME49720HA-TO99 
Audio
AKG K 701 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 11
Thread Starter 
I've considered getting a pair of 701s, and do eventually want to. But my biggest concern is partially aesthetics. I have a zalman clip on paired up with my A900s, and had some cable sleeving to cover the mic cord, and honestly, the sleeving would continuously fall down from where I had it heat shrinked (at the little nipple thing where the wire comes out of the cans themselves is where I had the heatshrink to hold up sleeve). I cut off the clip on part and permanently attached the mic to the sleeving I through over the headphone and mic cables. While it worked just fine, it looked rather "meh" and the sleeving was very stiff/ugly compared to the nice simple cable already on the cans. I haven't been able to find any good guides/had the heart to go ahead and mod the cable for my headphones all together where I can include the cable for the mic in the same sleeving as the headphone wire. But, I may just have to look into that mod mic thing, does look pretty snazzy I must say. Maybe use it for a future project when I have the heart and skill to start modding headphones.
Redrum
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 @ 4 Ghz Asus Rampage III Extreme Asus 580 DCII OCZ 12gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Agility Corsair Force GT 7200 HDD 7200 HDD 
Optical DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
8x Asus Bluray Windows 7 Home 64, Ubuntu 11.04 Samsung 27" LCD Ducky MX Reds 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 850 Corsair 800D Steel Series Sensei Steel Series 9HD 
AudioOther
Asus Xonar STX A900 (music/FPS), G930 (MMO/vent) 
  hide details  
Reply
Redrum
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 @ 4 Ghz Asus Rampage III Extreme Asus 580 DCII OCZ 12gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Agility Corsair Force GT 7200 HDD 7200 HDD 
Optical DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
8x Asus Bluray Windows 7 Home 64, Ubuntu 11.04 Samsung 27" LCD Ducky MX Reds 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 850 Corsair 800D Steel Series Sensei Steel Series 9HD 
AudioOther
Asus Xonar STX A900 (music/FPS), G930 (MMO/vent) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 11
Like mentioned the MMX300s are 160 dollar headphones with a 5 dollar mic and 185 dollars of convenience.

Your A900s should actually be slightly better than the DT770s/MMX300 for gaming because the mids are recessed on the DT770s. The Beyer's produce a lot of bass though. A900s produce decent bass and great isolation, but the bass on the DT770s are..woo...yeah.

If you're a handy person, you could also consider trying to attach a mic onto your A900 by cutting a hole into the side of the can rewiring and all that jazz. There's a few guides here and there on how to do that. Look around.

PC360s are also good, but have a narrower sound stage. Everything will sound closer than they may be. This can be a positive and negative. The real positive is that it's half the price of the MMX300, but NOT half the performance in difference. I honestly would not buy an MMX300. It's not worth it. The PC360s are also expensive, but much more worth their value. Better mic on the 360s as well.

K701s NEEED an amp. NO EXCEPTIONS. And a very good amp at that. You may as well buy AD700s because the difference in gaming is not worth the extra price on details. Also AD700s don't require you buy an expensive amp to drive them like the AKGs.
2nd Gig
(24 items)
 
Sayonara
(20 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Asus M4A79T Deluxe NVIDIA GTX 670 FTW OCZ Platinum 4GB 1600 DDR3 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
OCZ Vertex 2 90GB & Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Scythe MUGEN-2 Microsoft Windows 8 Professional Dell UltraSharp u2410 & Samsung 2333SW 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 OCZ GameXStream 700w HAF 932 Advanced Logitech G300 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Denon AVR-1912 Harman Kardon Infinity Primus P153  HIFIMAN HE-400 Vsonic GR07 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Shure SE-535 Limited Edition Beyerdynamic DT880 ODAC/Objective 2 Amplfiier Audio Technica AD700 
  hide details  
Reply
2nd Gig
(24 items)
 
Sayonara
(20 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Asus M4A79T Deluxe NVIDIA GTX 670 FTW OCZ Platinum 4GB 1600 DDR3 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
OCZ Vertex 2 90GB & Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Scythe MUGEN-2 Microsoft Windows 8 Professional Dell UltraSharp u2410 & Samsung 2333SW 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 OCZ GameXStream 700w HAF 932 Advanced Logitech G300 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Denon AVR-1912 Harman Kardon Infinity Primus P153  HIFIMAN HE-400 Vsonic GR07 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Shure SE-535 Limited Edition Beyerdynamic DT880 ODAC/Objective 2 Amplfiier Audio Technica AD700 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 11
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simca View Post

If you're a handy person, you could also consider trying to attach a mic onto your A900 by cutting a hole into the side of the can rewiring and all that jazz. There's a few guides here and there on how to do that. Look around.

K701s NEEED an amp. NO EXCEPTIONS. And a very good amp at that. You may as well buy AD700s because the difference in gaming is not worth the extra price on details. Also AD700s don't require you buy an expensive amp to drive them like the AKGs.

Was considering installing the mod mic thing that Pyroh mentioned. If I can, I would love to do a setup similar to what SteelSeries does with their headsets (retractable mic), but one step at a time first. Also, for the K701s, wouldn't my STX suffice? I don't know jack about DACs/Tube amps or anything like that.

EDIT: Also, I would like to purchase another set of cans just in case I do screw up the A900 mic mod if I go for it, been thinking of Grado 325i, been reading a lot of good things, plus I love the design.
Redrum
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 @ 4 Ghz Asus Rampage III Extreme Asus 580 DCII OCZ 12gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Agility Corsair Force GT 7200 HDD 7200 HDD 
Optical DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
8x Asus Bluray Windows 7 Home 64, Ubuntu 11.04 Samsung 27" LCD Ducky MX Reds 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 850 Corsair 800D Steel Series Sensei Steel Series 9HD 
AudioOther
Asus Xonar STX A900 (music/FPS), G930 (MMO/vent) 
  hide details  
Reply
Redrum
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 @ 4 Ghz Asus Rampage III Extreme Asus 580 DCII OCZ 12gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Agility Corsair Force GT 7200 HDD 7200 HDD 
Optical DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
8x Asus Bluray Windows 7 Home 64, Ubuntu 11.04 Samsung 27" LCD Ducky MX Reds 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 850 Corsair 800D Steel Series Sensei Steel Series 9HD 
AudioOther
Asus Xonar STX A900 (music/FPS), G930 (MMO/vent) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #8 of 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by waldoh74 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Simca View Post

If you're a handy person, you could also consider trying to attach a mic onto your A900 by cutting a hole into the side of the can rewiring and all that jazz. There's a few guides here and there on how to do that. Look around.

K701s NEEED an amp. NO EXCEPTIONS. And a very good amp at that. You may as well buy AD700s because the difference in gaming is not worth the extra price on details. Also AD700s don't require you buy an expensive amp to drive them like the AKGs.

Was considering installing the mod mic thing that Pyroh mentioned. If I can, I would love to do a setup similar to what SteelSeries does with their headsets (retractable mic), but one step at a time first. Also, for the K701s, wouldn't my STX suffice? I don't know jack about DACs/Tube amps or anything like that.

EDIT: Also, I would like to purchase another set of cans just in case I do screw up the A900 mic mod if I go for it, been thinking of Grado 325i, been reading a lot of good things, plus I love the design.

IMO, the STX won't drive the K701's to an acceptable level despite driving 600 ohm headphones. They're just hard to drive heapdhones. You would need a strong amp to do them justice and for that, you may as well just buy AD700s or Dark Knight AD700s (built in mic and painted black).

You should go to a Guitar Center or something to try Grados out before you buy them. They're a sound only certain people like. We can't tell you if you'd like them or not.
2nd Gig
(24 items)
 
Sayonara
(20 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Asus M4A79T Deluxe NVIDIA GTX 670 FTW OCZ Platinum 4GB 1600 DDR3 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
OCZ Vertex 2 90GB & Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Scythe MUGEN-2 Microsoft Windows 8 Professional Dell UltraSharp u2410 & Samsung 2333SW 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 OCZ GameXStream 700w HAF 932 Advanced Logitech G300 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Denon AVR-1912 Harman Kardon Infinity Primus P153  HIFIMAN HE-400 Vsonic GR07 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Shure SE-535 Limited Edition Beyerdynamic DT880 ODAC/Objective 2 Amplfiier Audio Technica AD700 
  hide details  
Reply
2nd Gig
(24 items)
 
Sayonara
(20 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Asus M4A79T Deluxe NVIDIA GTX 670 FTW OCZ Platinum 4GB 1600 DDR3 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
OCZ Vertex 2 90GB & Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Scythe MUGEN-2 Microsoft Windows 8 Professional Dell UltraSharp u2410 & Samsung 2333SW 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 OCZ GameXStream 700w HAF 932 Advanced Logitech G300 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Denon AVR-1912 Harman Kardon Infinity Primus P153  HIFIMAN HE-400 Vsonic GR07 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Shure SE-535 Limited Edition Beyerdynamic DT880 ODAC/Objective 2 Amplfiier Audio Technica AD700 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 
Just googled Dark Knight AD700, and here is what I found.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/484176/dark-knight-ad700-gaming-mod-lots-of-pics

O.
M..
G...

I must say, that is pretty damn sweet! Probably gonna use that as a guide if I do the mod.
Redrum
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 @ 4 Ghz Asus Rampage III Extreme Asus 580 DCII OCZ 12gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Agility Corsair Force GT 7200 HDD 7200 HDD 
Optical DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
8x Asus Bluray Windows 7 Home 64, Ubuntu 11.04 Samsung 27" LCD Ducky MX Reds 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 850 Corsair 800D Steel Series Sensei Steel Series 9HD 
AudioOther
Asus Xonar STX A900 (music/FPS), G930 (MMO/vent) 
  hide details  
Reply
Redrum
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 @ 4 Ghz Asus Rampage III Extreme Asus 580 DCII OCZ 12gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Agility Corsair Force GT 7200 HDD 7200 HDD 
Optical DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
8x Asus Bluray Windows 7 Home 64, Ubuntu 11.04 Samsung 27" LCD Ducky MX Reds 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 850 Corsair 800D Steel Series Sensei Steel Series 9HD 
AudioOther
Asus Xonar STX A900 (music/FPS), G930 (MMO/vent) 
  hide details  
Reply
post #10 of 11
im more of a Bayerdynamic guys so MMX 300
My System
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3930k Asus Rampage IV Extreme MSI 980ti Lightning G.Skill F3 Sniper 32gig 1866mhz 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Plextor M5P 256Gb 2xMushkin Chronos 240gb 1xOcz... Ek H30 watercooling kit koolance 30FPI 360Rad Win 7 Pro Acer XB270HU 1440p 144hz +Dell U2711 1440p +Cro... 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
DuckyShine 9087DK S3 XFX Pro black edition 1250w Gold  Silverstone Temjin TJ11 Zowie Fk1  
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Qpad heaton XL Audeze LCD-3 , Shure 425  Soundcard Asus essence STX , Amp: Schiit lyr w... 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3930k Asus Rampage IV Extreme MSI 980ti Lightning G.Skill F3 Sniper 32gig 1866mhz 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Plextor M5P 256Gb 2xMushkin Chronos 240gb 1xOcz... Ek H30 watercooling kit koolance 30FPI 360Rad Win 7 Pro Acer XB270HU 1440p 144hz +Dell U2711 1440p +Cro... 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
DuckyShine 9087DK S3 XFX Pro black edition 1250w Gold  Silverstone Temjin TJ11 Zowie Fk1  
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Qpad heaton XL Audeze LCD-3 , Shure 425  Soundcard Asus essence STX , Amp: Schiit lyr w... 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Sound Cards and Computer Audio
Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Sound Cards and Computer Audio › mmx 300 or pc 360...opinions please