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Please only first hand experiences.

With the introduction of bigger memory capacities, i've been wondering what you guys use your ram drive for?

I have the 3930k with 32gb memory. Ran drive speed is 7000mbs write, 9000mbs read. There must be some way i can utilize this speed. I do after effects and video production.

So far today i did pcmark vantage and pagefile on and off and it doesn't make a difference. I'll do more tests and update this thread.

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I've been running 16GB of ram in my laptop, SSD, no pagefile and no issues so far. Pagefile in a ramdisk is pointless and can only be slower because because without a pagefile, windows would just leave it in RAM period without having the overhead of putting the pagefile in RAM then putting data in that virtual disk in RAM. I had the pagefile on the SSD for a while before I installed 16GB of RAM (had 8 before) but there was no noticeable change. Now I just have 16GB free on my SSD so it's a win-win for me.
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People keep saying that there are programs that refuse to run unless they see a pagefile... but I have yet to encounter any such program on my general-use PC which has 16GB RAM and set to no pagefile just for fun.

Setting a min/max 16MB (or whatever the smallest possible size) pagefile is probably the safest bet.

Can't understand people consider pagefile on RAMdisk. It's a thoroughly self defeating exercise isn't it?
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It's not common anymore, but a lot of older applications expect a pagefile, I work with one at work that does. The point of using a ramdisk for pagefile is it makes it super fast, and if you have ram to spare, why not.
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So I think I got my workflow organized. I use a ramdisk to host the current project files I'm working on. on Vertex raid takes 1 minute to open a project with about 150 clips on premiere, takes 5 seconds on RAM Drive, and it takes like 3 minutes on a regular drive.

I got my RAM Disk to save and load on shutdown and start, and there's an auto backup option every x minutes.

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The thing that irritates me about RAMdisks is that they have to be saved at shutdown and loaded at startup, destroying boot times. Supposing you put your pagefile on a RAMdisk, would you be able to let it get completely wiped every time you turn off the PC?
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It's not common anymore, but a lot of older applications expect a pagefile, I work with one at work that does. The point of using a ramdisk for pagefile is it makes it super fast, and if you have ram to spare, why not.

Can you name any examples? I'm not disputing you, I'm just genuinely interested in which programs actually use the pagefile. I'm mostly concerned with games, so I doubt any of them will use it.
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So I think I got my workflow organized. I use a ramdisk to host the current project files I'm working on. on Vertex raid takes 1 minute to open a project with about 150 clips on premiere, takes 5 seconds on RAM Drive, and it takes like 3 minutes on a regular drive.
I got my RAM Disk to save and load on shutdown and start, and there's an auto backup option every x minutes.
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How is that relevant to the pagefile topic?
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I disabled the pagefile since win7 is installed and have no problems so far. I use the ramdisk as a temp/firefox cache/dev working dir and so on, w/ saving at shutdown disabled, i use a synchronization software instead, when it's required.
Since i don't use a pagefile i can't answer for the pagefile in ramdisk.
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I am not sure how much you tweaked in your AE settings but I avoid the RAM disk on my VFX Windows installation!
After Effects will need more RAM to utilize all cores. I also have the 3930K and to use all 12 threads you need min 24GB! (2GB/Core)
Technically you still could create a small RAM disk but wouldn`t make much sense to me.
For my Gaming Windows it is perfectly fine to stuff a game on it or whatever I want/need.

You could also check the RAM DISK Guide in my sig out. Some useful infos there thumb.gif

I shrinked the size of my pagefile to a minimum ~800 or something.
Why?
Only because if I turn it of windows complains that it cant store the content of the RAM to the disk if I BSOD...
I dont like complaining that is why I gave Windows some small space to dwell.
And IMHO it doesn`t really make sense to swap a pagefile to the RAM. If you have enough RAM it will be barely used.
And in case you dont have enough RAM it makes even less sense to put that into the RAM tongue.gif

And if you have questions regarding After Effect - please let me know.
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post #9 of 17
I leave it off, but sometimes turn it back on when a program needs. I noticed that checking the disk for errors strangely will use all my ram, and need a page file.
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It's not common anymore, but a lot of older applications expect a pagefile, I work with one at work that does.

How many is "a lot"? Many rumours and myths float around on internet forums.
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